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Anti-Seize Tricks...

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fmr

12-11-2003 11:12:50




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Guys, What products/tricks work best for freeing seized bolts, etc? Especially nuts from studs? Thanks a bunch for any advice!




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chaney creek

12-12-2003 19:32:25




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 Re: Anti-Seize Tricks... in reply to fmr, 12-11-2003 11:12:50  
Didn't believe it until I tried it - heat them cherry red and then quench them with water. Don't know what actually takes place around the threads but an ole timer showed me this last year on some siezed heay duty turnbuckles - they practically turned off with no effort.



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chaney creek

12-12-2003 17:38:17




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 Re: Anti-Seize Tricks... in reply to fmr, 12-11-2003 11:12:50  
Didn't believe it until I tried it - heat them cherry red and then quench them with water. Don't know what actually takes place around the threads but an ole timer showed me this last year on some siezed heay duty turnbuckles - they practically turned off with no effort.



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Ed

12-12-2003 10:43:00




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 Re: Anti-Seize Tricks... in reply to fmr, 12-11-2003 11:12:50  
I use my speed wrench and burn them off - be careful not to cut the stud if you need to keep it. Bolts that can be replaced get tossed.

On most farm equipment it's easier to cut it off with a torch and replace - just know what your doing.

OH! some silver anti-seize will prevent the new one from seizing.



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Fred OH

12-12-2003 08:51:51




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 Re: Anti-Seize Tricks... in reply to fmr, 12-11-2003 11:12:50  
Generally speaking...if a nut feels like it won't come off with a reasonable amount of force...I take the torch and heat one flat on the nut to a dull to cherry red, slap a box end or an impact socket on it with a breaker bar, give it a turn (movement,usually back and forth) and take the wrench/socket off quickly in respect for the heat treatment in the wrench. Then let it cool for a few minutes and screw it off. While it's still hot I put a little penetrant on it...if available.
Sometimes when you're out in the boondocks and none of these methods are handy...the guy that said to smack the flats on the nut with a hammer (at least three of 'em) gets an "A". Fred OH

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Wayne

12-11-2003 19:19:28




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 Re: Anti-Seize Tricks... in reply to fmr, 12-11-2003 11:12:50  
Hey FMR, if you have a nut siezed to a stud the best way to remove it is a SHARP cold chisel. Simply put the chisel upright against one of the flats on the nut and give it a couple hard hits. If the nut doesn't split then it should at least speread a little loosening it on the stud where it will back off. Anytime I change a exhaust manifold, turbo, etc., anything that has a stud and nut this is how I do it. Two minutes per nut with a hammer and cold chisel beats 30 minutes fighting it and taking the chance of twisting off the stud (which is probably rusted in tight too) or worse breaking a piece of whatever it's screwed into. The next best thing is PB Blaster if you give it time to soak in. No matter which way you go, at least replace the nut and use never-sieze, if it's on something like an exhause manifold you can go back with brass nuts(still use never-sieze) to prevent this problem next time. Good luck.

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Nebraska Cowman

12-11-2003 16:16:29




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 Re: Anti-Seize Tricks... in reply to fmr, 12-11-2003 11:12:50  
tapping with a hammer works wonders, also a sharp chisel. Try dissasembly after a wet day, you will be amazed how much easier things come apart.



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RobertTX

12-11-2003 12:44:17




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 Re: Anti-Seize Tricks... in reply to fmr, 12-11-2003 11:12:50  
On studs and nuts, I heat the nut very hot, as soon as it cools enough to lose color, I back it off with the impact wrench. Clean the stud with a wire wheel, run a tap through the nut, both can usually be reused.



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Red Dave

12-11-2003 11:21:38




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 Re: Anti-Seize Tricks... in reply to fmr, 12-11-2003 11:12:50  
Heat. Get it red hot them cool it down fast. Always worked for me so far.
If heat isn't possible, I have had some success with PB Blaster, Gibbs & some other penetrating oils.



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Alvin n Ms.

12-11-2003 11:37:00




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 Re: Re: Anti-Seize Tricks... in reply to Red Dave, 12-11-2003 11:21:38  
FMR, the real pros, toss out everything possible and use new ones. Feel free to dispute this statement, anyone. alvinnms



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John Ne.

12-11-2003 16:50:32




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 Re: Re: Re: Anti-Seize Tricks... in reply to Alvin n Ms., 12-11-2003 11:37:00  
Throw it away! But what if that part hasn't been made since 1942? Or you don't want to make yet another trip to town to 45miles round trip for one more bolt? Make it work, make it do, or make a new one. John in Nebraska



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CH

12-11-2003 16:49:59




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 Re: Re: Re: Anti-Seize Tricks... in reply to Alvin n Ms., 12-11-2003 11:37:00  
I don't want to sound stupid, but what's FMR Alvin?



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blond

12-11-2003 18:37:22




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Anti-Seize Tricks... in reply to CH, 12-11-2003 16:49:59  
duh, fmr posted original message!!!!! !!!!! !!!!! !!!!! !!!!



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Nebraska Cowman

12-11-2003 16:14:07




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 Re: Re: Re: Anti-Seize Tricks... in reply to Alvin n Ms., 12-11-2003 11:37:00  
I an not a pro, I reuse everthing. You would not believe some of the things I have gotten away with, (And the tractor run1s well thank you)



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HUH?

12-11-2003 12:29:05




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 Re: Re: Re: Anti-Seize Tricks... in reply to Alvin n Ms., 12-11-2003 11:37:00  
You have got to get it apart first!



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