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IHC/Farmall Wheel Centers

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720Deere

11-26-2003 15:53:43




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Is it just me or are there alot of IHC/Farmall tractors showing up in the photo and photo ad sections having the rear wheel centers reversed? What is the advantage to this? I am a JD man but have been around enough IH and I have never seen this before. Was this something that worked better with a picker perhaps? I would appreciate any imput as this drives me nuts!




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Loren

11-27-2003 15:47:43




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 Re: IHC/Farmall Wheel Centers in reply to 720Deere, 11-26-2003 15:53:43  
When the Farmalls were new, the standard row spacing was 40". 40" came from the horse era, to accommodate 2 horses side-by-side in a 2 two spacing, for planting or cutivating. Wasn't until the row spacing went to 30" - 36" that you saw the dish turned in.



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Ron 1456

11-27-2003 05:37:13




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 Re: IHC/Farmall Wheel Centers in reply to 720Deere, 11-26-2003 15:53:43  
The way the dish of the wheel was turned had to do with row spacing. With the wheels dished out you could slide them in on the axle far enough to be centered on 36" rows. Any row width narrower than 36 required the dish to be turned in. This assumes you were stradling 2 rows as was the case with most row crops in the corn belt at that time. The tractors in other areas areas usually had the wheel dish out for safety reasons because a wider tread is safer especially on hillsides. In areas where specialty crop such as sugar beets or vegatables were grown the wheel were dished in. Tractors were transported from the factory to the dealers with the dish turned in.

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49 Cubber!One more thing!

11-27-2003 04:50:30




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 Re: IHC/Farmall Wheel Centers in reply to 720Deere, 11-26-2003 15:53:43  
Just wanted to ad that you shouldnt push them all the way in dished in,makes it look like a big ole orchrd tractor.Mine are set a 80",my trailer is 84 between the fendres,I originally could get it on with the smaller tires I had on it dished out and slid all the wya in but it was tight.



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paul

11-26-2003 21:39:58




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 Re: IHC/Farmall Wheel Centers in reply to 720Deere, 11-26-2003 15:53:43  
I think 49 Cubber has the answer without knowing it - takes up less room on the trailer....

--->Paul



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MB

11-26-2003 19:47:14




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 Re: IHC/Farmall Wheel Centers in reply to 720Deere, 11-26-2003 15:53:43  
I've had a '50 M, '44 M, 2x '45 H's, and a '40 rear axle/transmission and all had them dished out. Like 49cubber! said they are tough to load on some trailers dished out, I've had to reverse a few to get loaded. Two row spacing was probably the answer.



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Allan

11-26-2003 18:37:46




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 Re: IHC/Farmall Wheel Centers in reply to 720Deere, 11-26-2003 15:53:43  
720,

I think a lot of the fellas did this while working with 30" rows; just easier to suck 'em in to 60" that way.

Just my take,

Allan



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49 Cubber!

11-26-2003 16:27:16




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 Re: IHC/Farmall Wheel Centers in reply to 720Deere, 11-26-2003 15:53:43  
Almost every old pic I have seen have the wheels dished in,but like you most of what Ive seen has then dished out,and yes I think there were some implemnets that you had to do that although I cant think of any.I have mine like that so I can get it on my trailer,cant slide them in far enough with them dished out



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DoubleR

11-26-2003 20:34:56




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 Re: Re: IHC/Farmall Wheel Centers in reply to 49 Cubber! , 11-26-2003 16:27:16  
Takes up less room in the barn, fits on a trailor better, and yet you can still slid them out far enough to cultivate 36 inch rows. Works for me!!!



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