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Wisconsin VH4D 6 volt to 12 volt

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Kevin Edwards

11-12-2003 19:19:33




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I have an international 3200A skidloader.At the present it is setup as a 6 volt system.My question is on the best way to convert to a 12 volt system.The question is do I use flywheel conversion or go with a distributor with a external pulley to drive an alternator.Thanks Kevin




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steve

11-13-2003 19:09:49




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 Re: Wisconsin VH4D 6 volt to 12 volt in reply to Kevin Edwards, 11-12-2003 19:19:33  
i am not an expert on this small motor, but on many farm tractors with 6 volt generators, they will put out about 15 volts non regulated. this means you can connect a 12 volt regulator to a 6 volt generator and get 12 volt output. normally you only get about 5 amps, but thats enough to charge battery. if the generator has two terminals A anf F, try grounding the F, start motor and measure the voltage across A and F. when not connected to battery you should get 12-15 volts, which you can then add a regulator.

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Bob

11-13-2003 06:19:30




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 Re: Wisconsin VH4D 6 volt to 12 volt in reply to Kevin Edwards, 11-12-2003 19:19:33  
Get a 12 volt generator with attached distributor. Probably not as good as an alternator, but I have one I have used ocassionaly
for 25 years with no generator problems.



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Kevin Edwards

11-13-2003 18:07:54




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 Re: Re: Wisconsin VH4D 6 volt to 12 volt in reply to Bob, 11-13-2003 06:19:30  
Thanks Bob that sounds like a great idea.you
would'nt know where to acquire a 12volt generator?



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Bob

11-13-2003 23:09:10




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 Re: Re: Re: Wisconsin VH4D 6 volt to 12 volt in reply to Kevin Edwards, 11-13-2003 18:07:54  
I have a VG4D with the 12 volt generator. I don't know if it would fit a VH4D, and although I'm not using it, I am not parting it out at this time. I don't know where you could start looking, but there must be some 12 volt geberators out there!



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Bob M

11-13-2003 04:37:29




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 Re: Wisconsin VH4D 6 volt to 12 volt in reply to Kevin Edwards, 11-12-2003 19:19:33  
Kevin - Does the engine have a magneto now?



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Kevin

11-13-2003 18:09:39




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 Re: Re: Wisconsin VH4D 6 volt to 12 volt in reply to Bob M, 11-13-2003 04:37:29  
No it has a 6 volt generator distributor combination.



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Bob M

11-14-2003 08:15:02




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 Re: Re: Re: Wisconsin VH4D 6 volt to 12 volt in reply to Kevin, 11-13-2003 18:09:39  
Kevin - If that's the case, a good starter/alternator shop can rewind your existing generator for 12 volts.

However a cheaper (also higher output and less maintenance...) alternative would be to hang a belt-drive alternator on the engine. Leave the existing generator/distributor combo in place and remove the generator brushes. The generator will then just "be along for the ride" but will continue to drive the distributor.

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Bus Driver

11-13-2003 04:36:13




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 Re: Wisconsin VH4D 6 volt to 12 volt in reply to Kevin Edwards, 11-12-2003 19:19:33  
Is the present ignition system a distributor? The "D" suffix on the engine model suggests that it is. If so, changing to a different distributor is not required. Changing to a coil with internal dropping resistor or adding an external resistor will handle the ignition system. If magneto, no changes to it are required when changing the charging sytem to 12 volts.



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Kevin

11-13-2003 18:13:51




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 Re: Re: Wisconsin VH4D 6 volt to 12 volt in reply to Bus Driver, 11-13-2003 04:36:13  
The motor had a 12 volt flywheel alternator but I could never get all the components to work.I had several other motors one had a 6 volt distributor generator combination. Bob suggested trying to find a 12 volt generator distributor combination.This sounds the easiest fix as I only use this skidloader occassionally.what do you think?



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JT

11-13-2003 06:30:52




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 Re: Re: Wisconsin VH4D 6 volt to 12 volt in reply to Bus Driver, 11-13-2003 04:36:13  
That's a good thought on the suffix. However I think Wisconsin used this suffix to inticate that the engine had stelite valves instead of the ignition type.

JT



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Kevin Hanke

02-21-2005 19:48:37




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 Re: Re: Re: Wisconsin VH4D 6 volt to 12 volt in reply to JT, 11-13-2003 06:30:52  
I recently uncovered a 8x8 atv. It is called a KID made by Kenitice international Division of LTV aerospace. This contraption (http://shoson.com) is powered by the VH4D Wisconsin engine. It has been sitting in the woods here in Mississippi for about 16 years. Suprisingly enough it does not look to be in that bad of shape. I am starting the restoration process and would like to know from you fine gentleman what is the first thing i should do. or any pointers of what not to do. I will post a link to the pictures i took taking it out of the woods and getting it to the shop after I download them from the digital camera if anyone is interested. Thanks KJ

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