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Farmall M or Allis Chalmers WD?

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Martin Miller

11-12-2003 14:50:59




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I have been looking at an Allis Chalmers WD and a Farmall M both narrow front end. I want to use the tractor for brush hogging with a 5 or 6 pull behind model. What tractor would handle the mower the best and be easier to brsuh hog with? I appreciate any help.




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CWL

11-13-2003 06:31:47




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 Re: Farmall M or Allis Chalmers WD? in reply to Martin Miller, 11-12-2003 14:50:59  
Something that hasn't been said yet. The WD will be an easy tractor to rig up a 3-point on in the future. I've built a 3-point hitch for an H farmall, which is about the same as an M, and a WD both. With the WD you should already have the rock shaft and the lift cylinders. All you have to add are the lift arms, links and a top link connection. With the M everything has to be built from scratch. I can't say for an M, but my WD without added weight will outpull our H that has about 500lb. worth of wheel weights. Both tractors spin before the bog down. The WD is a great mowing tractor. I think that the M would be a more comfortable tillage tractor. My personal preference is that the WD will be easier to work on.

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Duane

11-13-2003 04:58:56




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 Re: Farmall M or Allis Chalmers WD? in reply to Martin Miller, 11-12-2003 14:50:59  
Buy them both then resale the WD to me for a $150 profit OR buy the M and tell me where the WD is at and I'll buy it in a second.



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jocco

11-12-2003 16:10:46




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 Re: Farmall M or Allis Chalmers WD? in reply to Martin Miller, 11-12-2003 14:50:59  
the m is more comfortable and has better wheel traction the live power is an option



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Archie

11-12-2003 16:09:58




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 Re: Farmall M or Allis Chalmers WD? in reply to Martin Miller, 11-12-2003 14:50:59  
Hello Martin. I have a wd allis i use with a six foot pull type bush hog. It dose a really good job. My brother in law has a farmall m that dose real good also. In the same field same size bushhog i use one third less gas. Same amount of ground covered. Good luck on your choice. Archie



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old

11-12-2003 15:11:03




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 Re: Farmall M or Allis Chalmers WD? in reply to Martin Miller, 11-12-2003 14:50:59  
Both ar about the same size in HP, does either one have live power at the pto. If yes thats the one I'd go with. Other then that they are so close to each other thta its up to the buyer, which do you like better red or orange Hope this helps a little



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Martin Miller

11-12-2003 15:18:56




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 Re: Re: Farmall M or Allis Chalmers WD? in reply to old, 11-12-2003 15:11:03  
I beleive that the Allis WD has live PTO but I am uncertain about the Farmall M. Which tractor is bigger in size? Thanks.



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old

11-12-2003 16:41:21




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 Re: Re: Re: Farmall M or Allis Chalmers WD? in reply to Martin Miller, 11-12-2003 15:18:56  
The Neb. test says a Wd is 34 Hp and the M is 36HP



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george md

11-12-2003 15:50:21




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 Re: Re: Re: Farmall M or Allis Chalmers WD? in reply to Martin Miller, 11-12-2003 15:18:56  
Martin, M does not have live power, but neither doesthe WD , it has what is called constant running power , which permits you to stop the drive wheels and keep the pto running . Poor imitation of live power , but works .

george



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Steve - IN

11-12-2003 15:46:36




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 Re: Re: Re: Farmall M or Allis Chalmers WD? in reply to Martin Miller, 11-12-2003 15:18:56  
Martin,
If it's stock, the M doesn't have live PTO. That drawback can be basically negated with an overrun clutch for 60 to 80 bucks. You haven't mentioned the difference in price between the two.

They'll both do the job. Both are good machines. Parts are available for both. Flip a coin, choose red or orange, or go with whichever seller will knock a few hundred off the price. OR -- do it the right way and buy them both, so you'll never regret not buying the other one. Tell your wife that with these old tractors you need a backup, and you've still saved a bundle versus the cost of a new, >30hp tractor.

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Martin Miller

11-12-2003 16:53:50




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Farmall M or Allis Chalmers WD? in reply to Steve - IN, 11-12-2003 15:46:36  
The guy who is selling the WD is asking $850 and the guy selling the Farmall M is asking $1,300. Both run great.



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Steve - IN

11-13-2003 06:12:38




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Farmall M or Allis Chalmers WD in reply to Martin Miller, 11-12-2003 16:53:50  
Martin,

I agree with what other guys have said: the WD is a decent price, the M is maybe a few hundred high. Then again, a fairly new set of tires on the M versus tires on their last legs on the WD can close that gap real fast; as you'd be in for >600 bucks for a set of tires.

I suppose you've already gotten the data on both machines and know that the M hp rating is comparable to a WD45, and a WD is more comparable to a H. You should be able to mow with both, the WD will take a bit longer, but burn less gas.

Good luck with whatever route you take.

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I Like Case

11-12-2003 21:20:53




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Farmall M or Allis Chalmers WD in reply to Martin Miller, 11-12-2003 16:53:50  
I was at a auction sale recently and seen a WD basket case sell for $750. And I mean a total basket case. Everything was probably there but the motor was dissasembled, the trans was dissasembled, the rearend was torn down. BUT you are looking for opinions so I reccomend the WD due to the live PTO.



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Mguy

11-12-2003 17:31:53




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Farmall M or Allis Chalmers WD in reply to Martin Miller, 11-12-2003 16:53:50  
With my handle, you'd think I'd be biased.
Toward the M,I mean. But I'll tell youwhat ,that WD allis would be a better mowin' tractor than the M. If it's got any decent sheet metal on it, grab that sucker.The WD is priced about right, the M sounds a little steep, unless it's really nice. Mguy.



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Martin Miller

11-12-2003 17:40:55




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Farmall M or Allis Chalmer in reply to Mguy, 11-12-2003 17:31:53  
I am thinking about offering the guy $950 or $1,000 for the M. And $800 for the WD instead of $850....hey its $50 bucks



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Super Kit

11-13-2003 07:50:29




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Farmall M or Allis Cha in reply to Martin Miller, 11-12-2003 17:40:55  
An issue that has been skipped in the power comparison is that most Ms were overhauled using the super kit. The larger pistons and thinner sleeves gave them a larger displacement and higher horsepower than the original 36 that was mentioned earlier. If you are in big brush you will sit a little higher on the M. If you are clipping under tree limbs you wont have to duck as much on the WD.



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Kelly C

11-12-2003 22:18:12




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Farmall M or Allis Cha in reply to Martin Miller, 11-12-2003 17:40:55  
I think you should jump on that WD for $850.
I have been looking for 2 years and have not seen any wd's for less than $1000 that were not just parts machines. Most running WD's bring $1100 around here.



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Mguy

11-12-2003 20:42:03




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Farmall M or Allis Cha in reply to Martin Miller, 11-12-2003 17:40:55  
MM, If that WD is OK, don't mess with this guy. He priced it at 850, that's what he wants. Say you offer 800, he says hit the road,you go to the M dude, he WANTS HIS price, you're screwed. You didnt get the better tractor because you wanted to save fifty stinkin'bucks. Now you go crawlin'back, tail between legs. Yeh, that's worth it .Think ahead.Mguy.



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wdTom

11-12-2003 17:57:13




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Farmall M or Allis Cha in reply to Martin Miller, 11-12-2003 17:40:55  
Here is how I see it. The WD is a bit smaller and lighter, but with loaded tires and or weights it can be made to weigh the same as an M. Therefore you get to choose how heavy you want your tractor. The WD is less money. It has a clutch that disengages power to the transmission,stopping the tractor while maintaining hydraulic and PTO power. If the oil this clutch runs in is cold and or thick you may not be able to shift without using the main (foot) clutch. The transmission clutch is hand operated and runs in the transmission oil. The WD45 I ran as a kid could be shifted with the transmission clutch after the oil was warm. It had 20 weight oil in the transmission. No matter how you figure it both of these tractors are good machines, but go for the WD, and start hanging out on the orange page. Or do as someone said and get both, I liked his logic.

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Robert in Dixie

11-14-2003 15:38:03




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Farmall M or Allis in reply to wdTom, 11-12-2003 17:57:13  
Another thing to think about is hauling. IF you are ever going to have to haul on a trailer the M is much wider and you would have to have about an 8 foot wide trailer or you would have to reverse the "dishes" and that is a b#$ch compared to the power shift wheels on the WD. A new three-point hitch for the M costs $625.00(Red Power Mag.), new three-point for WD between $300 and $400.

Here is what I would do (and already did) buy both, set them both up for some type of work, get a buddy or relative, and both of you get out there and have fun!

I bought a not running 1952 WD with 8 foot disc, cultivator, and 3-bottom AC plow for $900 in 2000.

Bought a decent running 1948 M with a three-point hitch for $700 about a month ago.

Have a blast!!!!! !!!!! !!!!! !!!!! !!!!! !!!!

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