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KB

11-09-2003 18:31:28




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Fired up grandpa's ole Belsaw saw mill this today. Much better than the disater I had earlier this week. You know this old equipment will talk to you if you are willing to listen. When I had tried to cut earlier the saw didn't sound right, feel right, the tractor didn't seem to react right, saw heated, sheeh! The net result was 1 log cut and more scrap than boards. Started working through the set up (broke out the level, square, jack, file, etc.) yesterday and took the twist out of the saw bed. Fired her up today and the saw sang, fed much easier, tractor purred right along the belt ran true. Made some nice boards today. So the big question I have is how old do I have to get before I will listen to the old iron rather than pull out my hair (not much left so I hope I get old enough soon

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Deas Plant.

11-11-2003 02:55:27




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 Re: Need to listen more in reply to KB, 11-09-2003 18:31:28  
Hi, KB. At least you did eventually listen, take note ----- and LEARN. You would be surprised just how many people never do. My boss has 12 full-time permanent operators on his payroll and one casual part-timer who is now 61 years old. About 1/2 of them are (more or less and sometimes) capable of telling whether something is wrong with their machine before it gets to be a 'major'.
The others are far more interested in making it through to 4.00 pm or thereabouts -- otherwise known as 'Beer O'clock'.

One poster mentioned common sense. Maybe the World Wildlife Fund ought to get involved here 'cos it seems to me that common sense is now a seriously endangered species.

There are a lot of people out there who appear to be crosses between computers and prostitutes. One of the truest sayings I have ever come across is this: "If you ever stop learning, you are dead from the neck up."

There is another interesting little sidelight to this. The first group generally do better work and get better feedback from the clients than the 'Beer O'clock' brigade.

Keep learning, Mate.

You have a wonderful day. Best wishes. Deas Plant.

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Wayne

11-09-2003 20:24:20




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 Re: Need to listen more in reply to KB, 11-09-2003 18:31:28  
I guess all the old equipment is the same wether it's a saw mill, a tractor, or whatever, it will all talk to you if you know what to listen for. That's the difference between a mechanic, and one of todays new "technicians". A mechanic knows how to use all of his senses first, including common sense, and then move on to whatever guage, etc is needed to further identify and correct the problem. The first thing a technician does is plug in the computer and let the tractors computer tell that computer and then him what is wrong so he can fix it. It takes 99% of the mechanic part out of it and just makes for a bunch of parts changers. The way I look at it though, the old mechanical stuff will be still be around when the rest is headed to the scrap heap, and since it takes a real mechanic to work on it I'll never be out of a job. Just my .02..... ..

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RJ-AZ

11-10-2003 18:13:22




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 Re: Re: Need to listen more in reply to Wayne, 11-09-2003 20:24:20  
Boy you got that right. One of our younger techs was fighting a problem of weak Jake brakes on an electronic MACK truck. He would hook up the scanner and check the settings and tell the user It ought to work now and it never did. I finally jumpered the head connections direct with 12 volts and you could tell they were trying but awful weak. I pulled the valve cover and found a missing oil galley plug, replaced it and the Jakes bark now. Ya gotta use the wrenches someday.

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JohN 50

11-10-2003 18:38:50




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 Re: Re: Re: Need to listen more in reply to RJ-AZ, 11-10-2003 18:13:22  
The trouble is NONE of the young ones know anything about trouble shooting. If the machine doesn't tell them what is wrong then they are lost. They want it quick and easy.



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Dave@NY

11-10-2003 02:47:44




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 Re: Re: Need to listen more in reply to Wayne, 11-09-2003 20:24:20  
Made the mistake of taking an almost new GMC Jimmy to the dealer for a "skipping" motor.Couldn't hardly see anything under the hood but wires & hoses.The short story of it--I ended up puting a fresh set of sparkplugs in and finally fixed it myself! So much for all that fancy analyzer stuff! But then maybe the young technician wasn't really on top of things either.Back in the simple days of points & condensers a fellow would have known the problem right off.And saved himself a whole pile of money too!

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