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PLEASE!! safety first

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JOHN (LA)

11-05-2003 07:52:04




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Well as winter sets in and we turn or attention to the holiday season I see another internal bulletin at work where someone set them self on fire with a cell phone. So please allow me to vent a little.
GASOLINE:
While we all use this on a daily basis we some times put safety aside and push lady luck to the limits. It only takes a split second for it to all turn wrong.
Number one cause of fire at a gas station is static electricity. Caused by starting pump then sitting in car with heater on. Pump stops so you get out to remove nozzle and BOOM!! That little spark that shocks you when you touch something on a cold day has just started a fire. Always ground yourself first. Cell phones create static electricity, which can cause a fire. Never use cell phones around gas.
Pouring gas from one container to another can create enough static electricity to start a fire with out any other ignition source. Always have both containers touching and if at all possible have at least one container setting on the ground. Never fill a gas can in the bed of a pickup truck. Always take it out and set it on the ground before filling.
Remember gas does not burn!! The gas fumes that you can barely see burn. They float through the air looking for an ignition source. And if they find it before disbursing in the air the result is an explosion and fire.
Please be safe and have a wonderful holiday season!!! JOHN

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Garry

11-06-2003 10:38:09




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 Re: PLEASE!! safety first in reply to JOHN (LA) , 11-05-2003 07:52:04  
John, thanks for the reminder. Weather a cigarate, cell phone, or static electircity is the cause, I'm not going to test it unless like you say, I get careless. Sometimes we do need reminding. Regretable, some folks here just don't get it. These are probably the same ones that will not buckle up their kids because they don't want someone telling them what to do.



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JOHN (LA)

11-06-2003 16:49:38




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 Re: Re: PLEASE!! safety first in reply to Garry, 11-06-2003 10:38:09  
Yes Garry some people will try to justify their stubbornness with any means. And cell phone company will try to twist the facts any way they can just fueling the dought.
Cell phones are now band from all hazardous locations by oil companies.
Gasoline is so volatile it can catch fire just by pouring it into a plastic container with no other ignition source; and then they try to say that an electrical device like a cell phone can not set it off. YHEA RIGHT

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Tim

11-06-2003 09:00:37




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 Re: PLEASE!! safety first in reply to JOHN (LA) , 11-05-2003 07:52:04  
There was a show on Tv about cell phone lighting gas and they concluded that was a myth and what acually starts the ingnition is when they put the nozel in the gas opening on the car and then slide back in the vehicle then when done slide back out to put the nozle back in on the pump. When they touch the nozle a static charge is created and boom.



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JOHN (LA)

11-06-2003 16:27:37




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 Re: Re: PLEASE!! safety first in reply to Tim, 11-06-2003 09:00:37  
Yes this is the #1 reason for fire at gas stations!!!!
BUT read post below about sub. Convince him!!!!!



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Nolan

11-06-2003 04:04:36




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 Re: Re: PLEASE!! safety first in reply to sting, 11-05-2003 20:49:37  
I personally don't care if you blow yourself up at a gas station. In fact, I encourage it, it would help out the gene pool.

But it does tend to tick me off when morons like yourself try to put me at risk with your folly.



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Mguy

11-05-2003 20:29:51




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 Re: PLEASE!! safety first in reply to JOHN (LA) , 11-05-2003 07:52:04  
Just a thought: Y'ever notice ,(at least here in IN) , gas stations have only one door. If a fire starts and you're in the convenience store, you gotta run out towards the fire to escape past burning pumps , tanks ,cars. I don''t get it. FWIW. Mguy.



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leger

11-05-2003 18:13:20




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 Re: PLEASE!! safety first in reply to JOHN (LA) , 11-05-2003 07:52:04  
There has NEVER been a proven case of a cell phone starting a gas fire !!!!! !!!



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JOHN (LA)

11-06-2003 06:48:22




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 Re: Re: PLEASE!! safety first in reply to leger, 11-05-2003 18:13:20  
While in this case there may have been another source of static electricity and they blamed it on the phone; Cell phones can start a fire.
Case in point:
A sub is working on an instrument panel at a major oil company refinery. His nokia cell phone rings. He stops working to answer the phone. The second he touches the answer button there is a flash explosion of the gas fumes leaking from the panel. He has second and third degree burns on his face, arms, and chest but lives to tell how it happened. If you could make this man believe for one second that cell phones will not start a fire I would then believe you.
Major oil companies are not in the habit of calling the 6 o'clock news to report every screw up.

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OOps

11-05-2003 08:15:50




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 Re: PLEASE!! safety first in reply to JOHN (LA) , 11-05-2003 07:52:04  
Three years ago I saw some dumb broad smoking a cigarette while pumping gas. How stupid. It is amazing to me that there are not more gas station explosions in the news.



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wolfe in tx

11-05-2003 15:57:53




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 Re: Re: PLEASE!! safety first in reply to OOps, 11-05-2003 08:15:50  
Cigarettes will not ignite gasoline unless it sparks while going thur the vapor barrier. Fire at gas pumps are 99% times caused by static electrity. Cigarettes will not set grass fires along the sides of the roads. The cig. does not burn hot enough to lite the grass. They are caused by sparks off of car and trucks or old glass bottles thur to the side of the road. Please that care with gasoline it is nothing to play with. By 2 cents worth

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Nolan

11-06-2003 04:09:53




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 Re: Re: Re: PLEASE!! safety first in reply to wolfe in tx, 11-05-2003 15:57:53  
Well, go ahead and put a cigarette out in a can of gasoline to test that theory of yours about how cigarettes can't ignite gasoline.

All those folks that have been lighting camp fires using glowing embers, they've all been wrong and never did it...

Brought to you sincerely by a guy who's lit gasoline with a cigarette, and started grass fires with them too.



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Jailkeeper

11-05-2003 20:32:23




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 Re: Re: Re: PLEASE!! safety first in reply to wolfe in tx, 11-05-2003 15:57:53  
I seen Col. Hannibal Smith set off lots of explosions by throwing a cigar into a puddle of gas.

Now I guess you'll say that was only on TV and it wasn't real.



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Larry

11-05-2003 18:35:50




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 Re: Re: Re: PLEASE!! safety first in reply to wolfe in tx, 11-05-2003 15:57:53  
You really think a cigarette won't start grass on fire? I don't even know why I'm typing this, you're just a plain old DUMB A$$. Are you from Plano, Tx??? Gentlemen, I mean no offense to anyone who lives in Plano, or anywhere else in Texas. I'm about done even reading or posting on here, I mean this has got to the point its meaningless, one guy posts somthing, and everyone has to try and prove him wrong... If were doing this...whats the point...Just like ME...calling this dumb A$$ a dumb A$$. Maybe I'm the dumb A$$, probably am. Sorry, I'll just have to call it....venting.

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random

11-06-2003 14:42:36




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: PLEASE!! safety first in reply to Larry, 11-05-2003 18:35:50  
That was random.



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wolfe in tx

11-05-2003 19:05:39




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: PLEASE!! safety first in reply to Larry, 11-05-2003 18:35:50  
well larry all i can say is try it . Plese let us know how it comes out wolfe



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OK-AL

11-05-2003 18:29:55




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 Re: Re: Re: PLEASE!! safety first in reply to wolfe in tx, 11-05-2003 15:57:53  
I don't know where you're from, but in Oklahoma in the summer and the grass is drier than the Sahara desert, you can bet that cigarettes will start a fire. Happens frequently.

OK-AL



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