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The Tractor Will Never Replace the Horse (long pos

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DRL

11-03-2003 11:58:58




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I have been reading a set of books called "Farm Knowledge" prepared exclusively for Sears, Roebuck and Co. Published by Doubleday, Page & Co. This four volume set has a copyright of 1918. This is basically a step by step everything you would ever want to know about farming. How to setup your homestead, preparation of fields, care and use of equipment and animals, financial management, etc. It is very interesting to compare the differences and similarities between what was good farming practices then and today. Also interesting to read about this era when tractors, engines, electricity, etc. were just beginning to find their way to the farm. The advise given by the author was to not sell all your horses in order to buy a tractor. A tractor is good for the heavy work of plowing and preparing the fields for planting, but horses were better for the planting, cultivating and harvesting of the crops. I quote: "...the tractor has come the supplement animal power, not to displace it."
If only they could see the "super farms" and equipment used today! Some of the statements made in these volumes seem quite short sighted from this side of the fence, but then putting yourself in their shoes, a farm consisting of several hundred or thousand acres would be totally unimaginable. Just think, 30 years ago, what would you have said to a person who told you that some day in the future, people all over the world could sit at their home and get information, send pictures, talk, buy and sell just by typing into a little square box and pushing a button.

If you have stayed with me this long, there is one more quote I want to share on this post. It comes from a section titled "How electricity may help farm women." "The washing machine, electrically driven, conserves the time, strength, and good nature of the housewife." Had to chuckle when I read this.

There is a poem in the book that I have typed up and printed out for framing, but I will save it for another post.

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Nolan

11-04-2003 09:43:39




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 Re: The Tractor Will Never Replace the Horse (long in reply to DRL, 11-03-2003 11:58:58  
Well, yea. But lets not forget that there's a lot of farming that still has to be done by hand. Fruit crops for one. Around here, tobacco also.



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Larry

11-04-2003 08:54:29




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 Re: The Tractor Will Never Replace the Horse (long in reply to DRL, 11-03-2003 11:58:58  
Amen! I'm in excavating, and can't imagine doing the work we do with horses.....BUT there is something to be said about Kim's post. The comradare between a good trained animal and man is almost a lost art. Anyone who has worked with a good bird dog, rode a good working horse, etc,etc will attest to this. Back in the early fourty's the neighbor farm used Oliver 70's, but granpa planted and cut hay with the horses. I'd watch for him and run tell my mother and she would make a quart of lemonade that I would run out to the fence. There I'd wait for MY ride up and back(worked every time, except once he re lit his cigar and burned his fingers when the matchbook flared up.)
As I recall, he never said mutch to those horses. At the end of the row, they would slow to almost a stop so he could pull the planter up, then turn the right way and center perfectly on the marker line. About the only time he said anything was when he had to stop mid-row and refill the seed hoppers. Even though I've got some pretty good hay burners in the pasture now, those memorys still make my day!
Thanx for giving the good side of my feeble brain a high today! Best regards, Larry

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Ray

11-04-2003 08:51:54




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 Re: The Tractor Will Never Replace the Horse (long in reply to DRL, 11-03-2003 11:58:58  
Of course we need to keep in mind that the reason a dozer can do so much more work than a horse is the tankers of 300 million year old liquid sunshine we ship around the earth. A horse runs on last weeks sunshine (or at most last years sunshine). Kind of like running a household on current income vs savings. Someday the chickens will come home to roost (if we ever begin to pay the actual cost of oil, including the hundreds of billion$ spent on defense) and millions more farmers (and maybe a few horses) will be needed to operate our farms. The only thing sure in this world is that it's going to keep on changing. Just my $0.02, :>)

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greenbeanman

11-03-2003 23:59:14




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 Re: The Tractor Will Never Replace the Horse (long in reply to DRL, 11-03-2003 11:58:58  
The old books can be a store house of knowledge. I am providing a link to one that is part of the Making of America series. It was published by my great great grandfather in 1867.

On page 227 he mentions the modern labor saving devices, and advocates an 8 hour work day.

He also tells that he employed as many as 50 men on occasion. No doubt for the harvesting of crops.
Can you imagine 50 hard working men versus the 30 foot header of a combine today? Somehow I think that diesel fuel would win out over mashed potatoes and gravy and fried chicken or roast or even steak.

Lots of knowledge and insight to be gained from these old books, but we do have to keep it in perspective.

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Deas Plant.

11-03-2003 23:29:45




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 Re: The Tractor Will Never Replace the Horse (long in reply to DRL, 11-03-2003 11:58:58  
Hi, Folks. Interesting concept about the relationship between horses and tractors.

Back in the late 60's/early 70's, some U.S. Army general is credited with predicting that one day there would be computers that weigh no more than 15 tons. I seem to remember vaguely that he also claimed that they would actually fit in a lounge room.

I also once saw a comparison between the work done by the wheelbarrow jockeys of yesteryear's construction scene and a single operator a Cat 631 scraper. Somebody with too much time on his hands and not enough to do had figgered out that it would take 1,100 men with shovels and wheelbarrows 8 -- E-I-G-H-T -- hours to move the same amount of dirt a distance of (I think) 100 yards that a Cat 631 would move that far in ONE hour.

"The labourer is worthy of his hire"????? ?????

I'm with KYHayman on this one. I'll take the D5 too.

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Kim

11-03-2003 17:01:02




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 Re: The Tractor Will Never Replace the Horse (long in reply to DRL, 11-03-2003 11:58:58  
I don't know, I farm 500 acres, and disked a few acres testerday with the horses, on Saterday I disk 160 acres with the trator, It was a lot more fun with the horses.



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John ne.

11-03-2003 14:12:59




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 Re: The Tractor Will Never Replace the Horse (long in reply to DRL, 11-03-2003 11:58:58  
Remember too that electricity for the farm was another 30 years off for most, then they put a single light bulb in each room. Have things of this ilk before, sure were covering their own quarter, and the harness maker, wagon maker, horseshoe makers, how times do change. John in Nebraska



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Paul in Mich

11-05-2003 06:50:02




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 Re: Re: The Tractor Will Never Replace the Horse ( in reply to John ne., 11-03-2003 14:12:59  
I'm sure there were a lot of buggy whip makers breathing a sigh of relief when they read that, knowing that their jobs were secure and that they could pass down their trade to their sons and subsequent generations. Being a machinist for 40 yrs, I was able to be a part of the transformation from 100 men frantically turning handles and cranks to C.N.C.technology where 1 or 2 "operators" produce what 100 "machinists" did. Many of the machinists in my age group thought "Nah, they can't replace my skill with a machine". I was lucky enough to realize that if I didn't learn to operate these new fangled things, I may never survive long enough to retire, and many of my collegues didn't. As they were forced out the door, they scratched their heads and wondered "wot hoppened". Buggy whip makers aren't forever, and neither were manual machinists, and neither were hoeing crews in fields, nor 10 men threshing crews. Something always comes along to replace what is. Gosh, I hope they never completely eliminate the need for a good wife.

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Big Jim

11-03-2003 13:33:57




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 Re: The Tractor Will Never Replace the Horse (long in reply to DRL, 11-03-2003 11:58:58  
DRL,

Your post is quite interesting. We really have come a long ways. One man today can do the same work it took many men to do in the past. I found a catalog in the wall of my house when we were doing some remodeling. The house was originaaly built in 1908. The catalog was from the Hercules Stump Pulling Company (somewhere in New York, I can't remember the town). Apparently, this is a large ratcheting device that you hook by either ropes or chains to a stump. Then you put a mule on each end and drive the mules around the stump and the device ratchets tighter and tighter, eventually pulling the stump out. Sounds pretty good....now if I could only find a couple of good mules!

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kyhayman

11-03-2003 17:25:39




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 Re: Re: The Tractor Will Never Replace the Horse ( in reply to Big Jim, 11-03-2003 13:33:57  
I'll take renting a D5 any day :-)



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Alan

11-06-2003 15:53:28




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 Re: Re: Re: The Tractor Will Never Replace the Hor in reply to kyhayman, 11-03-2003 17:25:39  
I just recently saw a statistic that there are more horses in the US now than at any previous point in our history. Good, bad or indifferent, I don't know, but interesting all the same.

Alan



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