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Oil in my truck's brake fluid?

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Josh

10-31-2003 16:40:50




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I have an 84 f-150 and today the brakes started sticking real bad once it warms up. Too bad to drive. Way to bad. I took it up to the garage (before it warmed up) The guy there says it has oil in with the brake fluid and it is eating all the rubber. He says they can try to flush it with denatured alcohal ($100 no guarantee) or replace every rubber part in the brake system. (wheel cylinders, master cylinder, proportioning valve, rubber hoses) I had a new master cylinder put in about 3 weeks ago. (diferent garage) Could they have mixed oil in somehow? And if so will it really eat all the rubber? should i try the alcohal flush or just replace the whole system? thanks for the advice!

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Russ

11-01-2003 05:33:15




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 Re: Oil in my truck's brake fluid? in reply to Josh, 10-31-2003 16:40:50  
Swollen parts; Mark B. has got it right. Make sure you talk the fix over with the owner of the repair garage. An offer to meet him half way has
the best chance of flying. If the estimated parts
and labor is too high from the get-go sell your F-150 for parts and start looking for a better used
pickup. Good luck in your recovery.



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hay

11-01-2003 03:27:57




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 Re: Oil in my truck's brake fluid? in reply to Josh, 10-31-2003 16:40:50  
go back to the first shop and tell them of the problem. they may (or may not) make it right. oil is not good in a brake system. i tried the flush one time when an elderly man accidentally put oil in his brake system and it was almost impossible to flush out. better to replace everything for safety's sake.



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JD-Tractor

10-31-2003 22:03:08




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 Re: Oil in my truck's brake fluid? in reply to Josh, 10-31-2003 16:40:50  
Wondering why you replaced the Master cylinder to begin with????



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sod

11-01-2003 02:11:09




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 Re: Re: Oil in my truck's brake fluid? in reply to JD-Tractor , 10-31-2003 22:03:08  
What an - He replaced the master brake cylinder because he needed it replaced! Not everyone wants or wants to pay for a new Chev or Dodge.
good luck
sod



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JD-Tractor

11-01-2003 12:24:02




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 Re: Re: Re: Oil in my truck's brake fluid? in reply to sod, 11-01-2003 02:11:09  
Hey sod !!Do you have to be a jerk??? I was getting at the possibility that the garage that replaced the master cylinder may not be at fault as the current problem may be the result of what caused the need to replace the master cylinder!! I'll accept your apology anytime !!



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MarkB

11-01-2003 07:31:57




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 Re: Re: Re: Oil in my truck's brake fluid? in reply to sod, 11-01-2003 02:11:09  
Sod,

No that's a reasonable question. It's possible that the contamination happened before the master cylinder was swapped out.



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sod

11-01-2003 12:43:58




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Oil in my truck's brake fluid? in reply to MarkB, 11-01-2003 07:31:57  
O.K. I apologize. I thought someone was slamming brands again. I guess I hate that too much sometimes.
good luck
sod



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JD-Tractor

11-01-2003 14:07:17




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Oil in my truck's brake fluid? in reply to sod, 11-01-2003 12:43:58  
Surely you Jest !! I have Ford tatooed right under John Deere on my forehead,However I do drive a GMC (couldn't find A Ford in my price range that would pull my trailer at the time)



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JD-Tractor

11-01-2003 12:31:11




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Oil in my truck's brake fluid? in reply to MarkB, 11-01-2003 07:31:57  
In our area the current thought is to replace booster and master cylinder as a unit from the manufactur to eliminate compatibility and adjustment problems of using seperate units as the difference in price of parts is something like $8.00



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Josh

11-01-2003 08:17:51




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Oil in my truck's brake fluid? in reply to MarkB, 11-01-2003 07:31:57  
I had it in the shop to replace the vacuum assist unit, you could hear it sucking air down by the brake pedal everytime you hit the brakes. They just put a master cylinder in also. I was away at school and my mom took it in for me and never asked about the master cylinder.



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Dave S.

10-31-2003 18:26:23




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 Re: Oil in my truck's brake fluid? in reply to Josh, 10-31-2003 16:40:50  
Oil will definatley eat up any rubber parts in your brake system. If you just had a master cylinder installed 3 weeks ago, I would go to that garage and let them know what is happening. If you are sure that nobody around your house added oil to it, They should be responsible for the repairs.



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MarkB

10-31-2003 17:34:39




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 Re: Oil in my truck's brake fluid? in reply to Josh, 10-31-2003 16:40:50  
If your brake fluid is contaminated, the master cylinder and proportioning valve are probably already gone. At this point, you should probably replace everything and be done with it.

My son put power steering fluid in the brake reservoir of my 88 Chevy pickup (I was out of town.) By the time I figured out what he had done, the master cylinder, proportioning valve and antilock brake unloader valve were gone. I went ahead and replaced the rear wheel cylinders, but I dismantled the front calipers and cleaned them up good. (They were brand new.)

If your brake fluid is contaminated with oil, the tell-tale sign is that rubber parts will swell up. The rubber boot over the brake reservoir will probably be too big to fit into the reservoir.

Another possibility is contamination with DOT-5 silicone brake fluid. I'm told this won't attack the rubber, but the two fluids aren't compatible and will congeal into a gooey mass in the reservoir.

If you're sure you've got contaminated brake fluid and you're sure that the first shop is the source of the contamination, I'd go back and ask them to make it right. The parts alone will be several hundred bucks. You might ask them to split the bill, since on an '84 they'll be replacing parts that are probably shot anyway.

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