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Definition of a Slow Burn

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Allan

10-30-2003 04:19:49




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Hi Guys,

In May of this year, I hire a local contractor to build me a deck on the house and add an attached garage. He tells me that he can start on it within a month and that the deck will also most certainly be finished within that same month’s time, as he can work it in between other jobs. So far so good, but things starts going south from here.

On the 17th of July, I call him and ask if he has forgotten me. He tells me “No, I’ve just had so many little jobs to get out of the way first, before I start on your project.”

Late in the day, on the 8th of August he shows up saying he is ready to start the work, but that he will need half of the total costs paid up front. Stupid me, thinking if I give him a substantial down payment, this will hurry him along. Bid was for 17 to 18K, so I write him a check for $10,000.

Two weeks later, he shows up and works 2 ˝ days. His wife pulls in the yard on the second day carrying a contract from a local car dealer wanting him to remodel a house in town. My contractor leaves within the hour.

In the middle of September, here he comes again and over the next few days, finishes the deck, but first he builds one for the neighbor lady. I now have a really nice deck!!!

He says he’ll come back out and put on the first coat of wood preservative.

When he doesn’t show up a week later, I go to town, buy a paint gun along with the sealer and do it myself. All the while, everyday I’m drivin’ by the guy working on the car dealer’s house on my way to the post office. My money seems to be making quite a nice renovation over there.

The second week in October. Here he comes, he forms up the garage floor and finishes laying the concrete at 5pm. He works all night till 4:30 am power toweling the floor. It is nice!!

Three days later, he is back to lay the approach, but needs another $5000 to ‘keep his account going’. Like a damned fool, I write another check, thinking that now, at long last, I’ve got his full attention. The approach is laid and is really nice!! He tells me that the garage will be up by the first of November for sure.

The next few days, I see him back at the local car dealer’s house working like a beaver. Nice renovation going on there with my additional money. This is still the third week of October and he tells me, “We usually have really good weather in November”.

This morning, the 30th of October, I wake up and my $15,000 deck and cement slab is covered with 3” of snow.

God! I hope he remembered to close all the windows and doors on that newly renovated house. I want that local car dealer to be happy.

This neon sign on my forehead flashing "Idiot" is really givin' me a headache,

Allan

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kyhayman

11-01-2003 19:38:05




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 Re: Definition of a Slow Burn in reply to Allan, 10-30-2003 04:19:49  
Sounds like you got way more 'education' here than you wanted. My hopes that it turns out right. My policy always is, I will pay the suppliers direct (if need be), no front money. I pay when the job is finished, take it or leave it, cash money, day it's done not one dime sooner. Had a few fuss, one insisted so I escrowed his payment with a lawyer. It was a big job and he was happy. He never asked me to do it again. Just had him fix 'some' storm damage (about $150K), he didnt ask for any front money this time though.

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greenbeanman

10-30-2003 16:08:33




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 Re: Definition of a Slow Burn in reply to Allan, 10-30-2003 04:19:49  
Allan, before you make a final payment, if and when the work is completed, MAKE SURE that you go to the suppliers and confirm that there is no lien against the materials he used on your property. You might want to check at the courthouse too. This sounds like the kind of guy that would charge materials to your job site address, then not pay.

There are jerks in every profession, this is just one in his.

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ShepFL

10-30-2003 20:38:42




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 Re: Re: Definition of a Slow Burn in reply to greenbeanman, 10-30-2003 16:08:33  
BTDT with my slab for the shop. After numerous interviews and detailed cost estimates settled on a concrete man. He stiffed the concrete co. and rental place. They came looking for me. After I got that mess cleared up I found out he did a bait and switch on the redhead anchors. Had to pull all the preset anchors and drill new and reinstall. Very frustrating.



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Allan

10-30-2003 16:13:15




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 Re: Re: Definition of a Slow Burn in reply to greenbeanman, 10-30-2003 16:08:33  
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Well,

I hope I'm not crying "wolf" before all the dust settles.

The guy lives right up the road from me, was born and raised here and does do very good work. He is in very high demand and everyone here speaks very highly of him

I'm sure he is going to get the job done, but it is just damned frustrating is all.

Thanks Guys, for letting me vent today,

Allan

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Hayman

10-30-2003 18:21:28




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 Re: Re: Re: Definition of a Slow Burn in reply to Allan, 10-30-2003 16:13:15  
Beautiful deck! I would cut him some slack,you have made some mistakes dealing with him {like giving him money up front} AND you should be bugging him in a nice but firm manner. As a small contractor,I know what it's like to be too busy these days.One reason is the people I work for invariably want more than when I start the project.This pushes all the other projects back.I am not going to hire anyone else either ,just a helper and subtrades.Cost plus and bill every two weeks is the way for me.Also I don't see how this guy can build all that for that amount.It seems like you are getting a good deal to me.Alittle snow never hurt anything.Just be firm with your contractor,friend and neighbour.

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Howard Yoshida

10-30-2003 12:16:51




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 Re: Definition of a Slow Burn in reply to Allan, 10-30-2003 04:19:49  
Aloha, It looks like he took on too many jobs at the same time. He is using your money to do the auto dealers house. He probably gave the auto dealer a good deal so he could get a good deal on a car or truck in return. Contracts should always be made and you should have checked if he had a contractors license and also have checked with the BBB.

Mahalo,
Howard



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Van

10-30-2003 07:25:10




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 Re: Definition of a Slow Burn in reply to Allan, 10-30-2003 04:19:49  
Allen,
I would say your contractor is negligent in his responsibilities to you and you probably need to light a fire under his @##. I do contracting work also and have never left a customer hanging for so long. He either needs to hire help or not take on so many jobs he cannot handle at once. You initially handed him 10K up front and then a additional 5K. The 10K is more than half and that should have been all he got until completion of your projects. I would tell him that he better get it done or find a lawyer. He sounds like he is very iresponsible or just doesn't care.

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Jose

10-30-2003 06:59:07




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 Re: Definition of a Slow Burn in reply to Allan, 10-30-2003 04:19:49  
You say you hired a "contractor." Did you have a contract? You say his wife came up waving one from the car dealer, but you don't mention your own.



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