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OTQ - How do you charge a pressure tank?

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Fargo

10-27-2003 07:29:31




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My home well runs into a pressure tank 5 feet tall and 2 feet wide. A plumber wants 100$ to charge it. I am sure it is a five minute job and I have a compressor. Do I drain, close spigots and then pressurize from the obvious air valve? What is a typical household charge pressure for the tank given the tank size?

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Thanks everyone!!!

10-28-2003 07:25:38




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 Re: OTQ - How do you charge a pressure tank? in reply to Fargo, 10-27-2003 07:29:31  



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I would

10-27-2003 19:32:24




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 Re: OTQ - How do you charge a pressure tank? in reply to Fargo, 10-27-2003 07:29:31  
suggest that you find out the particular requirments for your tank. You have received a lot of advice-enough to be quite confusing. It depends a lot on whether your tank is a bladder or non-bladder type. If it is fitted with an air valve or whether it is even a commercial type tank. If it is a tank with a brand on it, you might be able to find instructions on the internet if you don't have a booklet with it or instructions on the tank itself. I agree that $100 is an excessive fee.

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uglyoldfatman

10-27-2003 16:00:59




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 Re: OTQ - How do you charge a pressure tank? in reply to Fargo, 10-27-2003 07:29:31  
What are you trying to do?
Is it water loged?
Do you think it just does not have enough pressure?

The pressure on your system will be whatever your cut-off pressure is on the pump.
To change this you must change the setting on the pressure switch.
This pressure should not be much over 45lbs.
You can get it too high for your commode valve to work properly.

If it is water logged, just cut off power, open drain valve and pull one of the plugs close too the top, so it does not create a vaccume. After tank is drained, close valve, put plug back in, and turn on power.
You can also add air to tank, with it full if you have a valve stem installed were one of the top plugs are. Try to stay under 70lbs. and drain off water to get the pressure down to cut-off pressure. This way you can force the level of water down to the proper level. May take more than a few times of airing up.
Water level should be about the lower 1/3, as long as it is above the inlet point.

You can tell the water level by running your hand up and down the side of the tank. There will be a differance in the temp. of the tank, at the water level.

If you have a submerged pump, there is a valve (2) that goes about 12-15 ft. down the pipe, that drains the water out of the pipe when the pump is off, so that every time the pump comes on, it will force air in the tank, and keep it from water-logging. There is a check valve in the tank on this system.

Hope this will help.

UG!

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buck

10-27-2003 13:19:13




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 Re: OTQ - How do you charge a pressure tank? in reply to Fargo, 10-27-2003 07:29:31  

On the older non bladder tanks I just cut off the pump, open th drain valve at the tank and slowely open the air valve on top of the tank untill it is sucking in air and continue to drain untill water no longer flows from tank. Now close the watedrain valve and the air valve. Restart the pump and it will compress the air with water. Takes just a few minutes.



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rustyfarmall

10-27-2003 10:00:09




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 Re: OTQ - How do you charge a pressure tank? in reply to Fargo, 10-27-2003 07:29:31  
Actually, it might take more like ten minutes, I don't know how much pressure, I just always filled a small portable air tank, and then tried to get as much of it in the water pressure tank as possible. Close the valve where the water comes into the tank, and open a faucet anywhere else in the house, you have to let water out in order to put air in.



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Paul Janke

10-27-2003 10:13:50




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 Re: Re: OTQ - How do you charge a pressure tank? in reply to rustyfarmall, 10-27-2003 10:00:09  
Shut off power to the pump, open a faucet to let out the water in the system, and charge the pressure tank to 2 PSI less than the startup pressure of the pressure switch.



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Sam MI

10-27-2003 09:51:11




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 Re: OTQ - How do you charge a pressure tank? in reply to Fargo, 10-27-2003 07:29:31  
Assuming you are talking about a bladder type tank, I believe these are charged with nitrogen. this would require special equipment. HTH



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Van

10-28-2003 04:55:00




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 Re: Re: OTQ - How do you charge a pressure tank? in reply to Sam MI, 10-27-2003 09:51:11  
Why would you need nitrogen for a rubber bladder?
Nitrogen is normally used for hydraulic accumulators and aircraft tires so the hydraulic system is moisture free and in the event of a tire failure there is no oxygen to promote combustion repectivly. Nitrogen also reacts less to temperture changes so tires maintain the correct pressure, I dont see the need for it in a bladder system.



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Jim WI

10-28-2003 11:25:30




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 Re: Re: Re: OTQ - How do you charge a pressure tan in reply to Van, 10-28-2003 04:55:00  
Typically, the original factory charge is nitrogen (because it's inert). After the tank leaks down a little, most times it gets recharged with compressed air (because it's easily available).

Sta-Rite Industries manufactures water pressure tanks for residential use. Here is an owners manual for one of their bladder type tanks and one of their air over water tanks. The modern air over water tanks regulate the volume of air in the tank using an "air volume control" or AVC (I don't have any knowledge of older tanks). The manual for the bladder type tank explains how to check the pressure switch and how to charge the tank.

I've no connection with Sta-Rite(other than the pressure tank in my basement). I've done this with my own tank (after the bladder failed) -- it's not hard to do. They'll sell parts directly to you by mail, too.

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Ben in KY

10-27-2003 08:11:27




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 Re: OTQ - How do you charge a pressure tank? in reply to Fargo, 10-27-2003 07:29:31  
Mine is the rubber bladder type of tank. I just turn off the pump open a valve to run the water pressure out and put in 15 lbs of air pressure while leaving the water valve open. Close the valve and turn on the pump. Done.



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paul

10-27-2003 07:38:05




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 Re: OTQ - How do you charge a pressure tank? in reply to Fargo, 10-27-2003 07:29:31  
I just turn off the pump, open a water valve in the basement to let pressuree out, & put in a tank of air - slowly - and close the water valve. You can't really got 'too much' air - if you do, it will bleed out. Usually if the tank is 1/2 air when everything is working it is about right.

I'm sure there are better, more correct, ways to do this and you will hear them here.

At any rate, do not over-pressurize the tank, think about what you are doing!

--->Paul

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