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old Michigan loader, should i buy it?????

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andy b.

10-22-2003 20:07:16

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a friend has an old Michigan articulated loader for sale. i have no idea of the model (but can find out if you give me some ideas where to look).
this baby is rather huge. the tires are about 4' tall and it has a big straight-six diesel motor. it runs good, but even with the engine and oil heaters plugged in, you still need to give it a shot of ether to get it started. my friend said he thinks it could use new or cleaned injectors, but it runs fine for "normal" use (normal meaning plowing through snow banks and moving tons of rocks or dirt in the bucket).
it has the shuttle-shift automatic transmission and it works fine with no slipping or problems shifting. high and low ranges work.
there are no dents in it or rust, and no welds or bent frame or linkages. all the hydraulics work perfectly (and those cylinders are gigantic).
all four tires hold air, and the tread looks okay.
it has one big problem, it needs brakes. i am not sure what this involves. anyone know what kind of a project this is or what costs may be involved? i believe it has a vacuum pump to run the breaks, and this is disconnected as well.

would this thing be worth $1500-$2000?

thanks.

andy b.

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paul romrell

03-26-2006 02:17:22

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Re: old Michigan loader, should i buy it????? in reply to andy b., 10-22-2003 20:07:16

speaking of michigan loaders maybe y'all can help me. I have a 75A. gas engine mich.Bought it used about 40 years ago. I still use it and it runs like a charm. One of the rear axel's broke(ball came out)doesn't give the power for loader loading push. However I have used it for everything else. I have been trying to sell it but for some reason guys do not think it is worth anything. Been thinking about fixing it. what do ya think I should do..It is definately a keeper and my john deere loader hasnt performed any where near to mich.

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Gene Davis

10-23-2003 18:21:46

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Re: old Michigan loader, should i buy it????? in reply to andy b., 10-22-2003 20:07:16

They were at one time part of the VME group (Volvo-Michigan-Euclid) not sure if they still are, might check with a Volvo heavy equipment dealer for parts, and they won't be cheap. we wused a 55II at our mine, it was good till we wore it out, machine, not the waukeshau 6 cylinder lp gas engine.

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kyhayman

10-23-2003 13:26:13

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Re: old Michigan loader, should i buy it????? in reply to andy b., 10-22-2003 20:07:16

For that money, buy it. I'd be willing to bet that the problem is in the brake actuator rather than the brakes. May be as simple as a blown fuse.

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Alvin n Ms.

10-23-2003 06:39:35

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Re: old Michigan loader, should i buy it????? in reply to andy b., 10-22-2003 20:07:16

They are good machines, but hard on an old man to operate. Young guys are not going to run one much because the newer machines are so much easier to run. That is what they usualy bring at the auctions that I have been to. Assuming it has a Detroit engine. It wouldn't take much work to be worth $2,000.

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Van

10-23-2003 04:42:56

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Re: old Michigan loader, should i buy it????? in reply to andy b., 10-22-2003 20:07:16

As for the brakes, do one end at a time, use the bucket to raise the front axle and block up on a solid surface. As for the rear, load the bucket up with gravel, pick bucket up 2-3 feet and jack rear axle with 10K jack. You can use the bucket as a counterbalance to aid jacking the rear. Use the bucket to your advantage on both ends. Been there done that, the machine probably weighs between 25 and 35 K.

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Deas Plant.

10-23-2003 04:16:57

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Re: old Michigan loader, should i buy it????? in reply to andy b., 10-22-2003 20:07:16

Hi, AndyB. Michigan made some quite good loaders, mostly strong and pretty reliable. If it is in running order and everything works except the brakes, you stand a better than fair chance of getting a fair bit of work out of it -- assuming that you have the work for it.

Re the brakes: You can jack the front wheels off the ground with the bucket - assuming the hydraulics are working reasonably well - and block the machine up under the axle while you work on it. For the rear end, you will need a somewhat bigger jack than your little 3-tonner, Try starting at 10 tons. Never leave it sitting on the jack for any reason. Play it safe and block under the machine before working on it.

The wheels have to be removed to get to the brakes and they are NOT light. My suggestion would be to get all four wheels off the ground and securely blocked then hire either a fork lift or a crane truck to lift the wheels off. Do your brake repairs and hire it again to put them back on.

Happy mechanicing.

You have a wonderful day. Best wishes. Deas Plant.

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JIM

10-22-2003 20:19:04

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Re: old Michigan loader, should i buy it????? in reply to andy b., 10-22-2003 20:07:16

SOUNDS LIKE A 75 C SIZE, IT WOULD BE WORTH 1500,
BRAKES WILL COST YOU ABOUT THAT MUCH, IVE SOLD A FEW IN THE PAST, DOES IT HAVE A DETROIT MOTOR, SOUNDS LIKE A 671, THEY ARE GREAT LOADERS MADE TO LAST FOREVER, LETS PUT IT THIS WAY, I WOULD PAY 1500 FOR IT!!!!
HOBBS-FARMS

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andy b.

10-22-2003 20:42:44

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Re: Re: old Michigan loader, should i buy it????? in reply to JIM, 10-22-2003 20:19:04

thanks for the reply. i'll try to find out what motor it is. i know it is a 6-cyl diesel for sure.
i have one correction, and one question.
it is NOT articulated (i was looking at pictures of some articulated ones, and i guess i had a brain spasm). i was thinking it may be a 75 as well (if that puts it in the late '60s or early '70s era), but didn't know where to look to see.

how big of a pain would it be for me to get at these brakes and try to fix them? do i need a 10-ton crane to pick the loader up, or can i do it without even removing the wheels? all i have is a 3-ton truck jack, air and hand tools, and a lot of hutzpah.

andy b.

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sod

10-22-2003 22:21:01

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Re: Re: Re: old Michigan loader, should i buy it?? in reply to andy b., 10-22-2003 20:42:44

If you can get it for that, buy it and have fun.
Dad had a 175 and a 275, both were great. As far as lifting... one of those 'railroad' style jacks will work if you are VERY careful.
good luck
sod

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JIM

10-22-2003 20:48:08

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Re: Re: Re: old Michigan loader, should i buy it?? in reply to andy b., 10-22-2003 20:42:44

THE HUGH AND PUFF WITH THE LITTLE JACK AINT GONNA CUT IT MY FREIND, IF ITS THE OLD STRAIGT JOB, THEN YOU NEED AT LEAST MAYBE A 10,000LB CAPACITY FORK LIFT, AND YOU WILL HAVE TO PULL THE WHEELS, IF YOU CAN GET THE SERIAL NUMBER AND THE MODEL YOU CAN CALL HEAVYEQUIP AND GET MOST OF THE PARTS, THERE SHOULD BE A TAG ON THE LEFTHAND SIDE OF THE MACHINE, RIGHT UNDER THE CAB, IF IT AINT THEN GOOD LUCK

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