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How Do I Convince Mom I Need a Tractor??

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Nathan

10-07-2003 18:37:26




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I thought it would be interesting to find out what you all think about my situation:

I'm 15 years old, don't live on a farm (although I live next to my grandpa's), have a one acre lot, and was recently bitten by the old iron bug. Now, I need to convince my mom that I need a tractor for, well, I'm not quite sure (but you probably understand...). She doesn't understand that I NEED it, so I figured I'd ask the advice of those who've been there. I've tried all the generic methods, flattery, bribery, plain old pleading, etc. but to no avail. HELP! I think the farming gene may have skipped a generation and landed on me!

Thanks a lot,
Nathan

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another doug

10-10-2003 04:58:06




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 Re: How Do I Convince Mom I Need a Tractor?? in reply to Nathan, 10-07-2003 18:37:26  
Perhaps your mother is worried that it will become a money pit and will cost you more than it's worth,and I can see that end of it, or maybe that you will lose interest and it will grow up in weeds,that happens too( around here as a matter of fact)A mothers job is to look out for you, and be protective. She doesn't want to see you spend all your money and then even more on something that isn;t worth it..Tractors do hold value, that's a plus! and also they can have hidden problems that co$t...If you want to work on it, buy one that's needing work , get a manual, ask questions...Can you use your Grandfather's tools and shop? Will he help you ? Is he a mechanical whiz? Does he have the time? Maybe you can spend more money and buy one that runs good...and save alot of worry and expense and time that your project is in pieces on the floor, my wife doesn't like us to buy plastic models because of those heartbreaks, instead she likes bigger projects like tractors and cars, still we use caution because ours are all in pieces everywhere( sometimes in the kitchen).Ok, remember you always can sell the thing when ( if) you ever get tired of it to someone else just like you....footnote ... when i was younger than you,i wanted a Silver King, had the money and my Dad got me to the auction too late(on purpose) and it was sold....I hold that against him too this day,yes parents make mistakes too...

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buickanddeere

10-09-2003 07:43:04




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 Re: How Do I Convince Mom I Need a Tractor?? in reply to Nathan, 10-07-2003 18:37:26  
You will be ready for a tractor when you quit whining and begging and earn the money for a tractor.



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Nathan

10-09-2003 13:42:43




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 Re: Re: How Do I Convince Mom I Need a Tractor?? in reply to buickanddeere, 10-09-2003 07:43:04  
I can see where you may have thought that from what I wrote, but I didn't ask my parents for a penny.



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Dan in Ore

10-08-2003 18:51:42




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 Re: How Do I Convince Mom I Need a Tractor?? in reply to Nathan, 10-07-2003 18:37:26  
Nathan,

If you join a tractor club, chances are they may have a tractor that was donated to the club. In a lot of cases (our club is one) the club will let you ADOPT-A-TRACTOR. Normally the club will foot the bill for repair parts and paint, but the labor is all up to you. The tractor still belongs to the club. Hope this helps.

Dan



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Farmer in the Dells (WI)

10-08-2003 18:20:11




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 Re: How Do I Convince Mom I Need a Tractor?? in reply to Nathan, 10-07-2003 18:37:26  
BTW Living in Minnesota you might want to check your local laws for tractor operation by a minor. You may want to take the class regardless. It will teach you plenty about knowing the limitations of the tractor with a loader, narrow front, and hazards associated with using them. Ask your Grandpa to teach you how to use one with a back blade. By this winter you'll be clearing snow for both of them and the first time your dad doesn't have to shovel the drive...well, end of story.

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farmallsc

10-08-2003 15:56:10




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 Re: How Do I Convince Mom I Need a Tractor?? in reply to Nathan, 10-07-2003 18:37:26  
i am 14, when my grandfather died he left me a john deere 650, and my pride and joy a 1951 farmall super c which im restoring right now you could try just using your grandpas, or save up and buy one by urself, i work to keep my super c goin



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Farmer in the Dells (WI)

10-08-2003 14:38:17




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 Re: How Do I Convince Mom I Need a Tractor?? in reply to Nathan, 10-07-2003 18:37:26  
Nathan, A lot of good suggestions here so I may as well add my 2 sense. You might tap on your Grandpa. I am willing to bet he has a lot of information to share and teaching is the finest form of flattery. He might have an old ironside way back in the barn you don't know about waiting for the right time to be worked on. That time could be now. I would bet a donut and a coffee he knows where one could be had reasonable enough as well. He might even finance part of it and let you work it off around his farm. Make sure school comes first though. These tractors have been around a long time but you only get the chance to go through school once. Well for most of us anyway, :) I had my first tractor before I owned a home. I still have it on my farm along with a few more and if the right one comes along, I'll make room for that one too. The fact that you are waiting for your Mom's approval is great. Respect like that is rare nowadays. Get your Grandpa to help win her over. She won't be sorry. You are making great family memories to cherish for the rest of your days. Not from a piece of iron, but from time spent with your roots while you can. Good luck. Just my 2 sense and keep the change.

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JW

10-08-2003 14:35:25




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 Re: How Do I Convince Mom I Need a Tractor?? in reply to Nathan, 10-07-2003 18:37:26  
You might remind her that it will be you who will pick her nursing home when she gets old. Another persuation you might try is to pick the type of iron you would like to get, for an acre lot a farmall A (or like size) would be a nice tractor to keep the lot clean. It would also allow her to haul flowers and other yard decorations around. Come up with appications that would suit your and possibly her needs. Being 15 you might consider some part-time jobs that would need a small tractor (mowing yards with a tractor equiped with a belly mower, landscaping, ect), and depending on your state's driving age requirements try opening a conversation about your favorite type of car instead of the tractor. Its amazing how a parent would want to talk about a Ford 8N instead of a Ford Mustang.

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TractorMom

10-08-2003 12:04:43




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 Re: How Do I Convince Mom I Need a Tractor?? in reply to Nathan, 10-07-2003 18:37:26  
Nathan,

I'm a mom. We don't have sons, but we do have daughters. Well, this is about tractors, and my husband wants a tractor. He doesn't need to convince me, though. I want one too! Why? For a lot of the reasons others here have already stated. Also, I just love them. I don't know what it is about those beauties that sets me and my husband purring too, but it does. We aren't farming people now, though I think I would easily like to raise some food on our ten acres... My husband's daddy did here in Georgia and so did mine. (I was a farm baby in Lodi, California, many moons ago.) Farm equipment just makes my heart warm inside. There are folks that won't understand that, and never will. It doesn't mean there's anything wrong with thinking that way.

I remember my daddy's tractor and still don't even know what it was... just that he looked so tall and happy riding it, and he did miracle things with it. To answer your question, or try to... you said your grandfather has a farm. Is he your mother's daddy? If so, she has to have some sort of affection for tractors. :-) Tap into that. Family memories have a lot of pull with moms.

I do hope you can get that tractor. I believe you will. Just remember that some things have to come in their right time. Be patient, but don't ever give up that dream. Let it live and keep it alive by doing research and learning all you can. The bottom line is, you're doing something honorable, and admirable. That'll win out in the end. You really impress me, so I know you probably impress her too. Be proud of that and hang onto that dream.

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markct

10-08-2003 08:00:18




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 Re: How Do I Convince Mom I Need a Tractor?? in reply to Nathan, 10-07-2003 18:37:26  
well why is it that she objects to it, are you trying to get her to come up with the money and buy it for you, or do ya just want her to let you keep it there, i was 18 when i got my caterpillar road grader, it was a freebie cause the engine had frozen and cracked all over, nothing that a spare ford 300 six and alot of fabrication couldnt fix. i asked my dad if it was ok if i got the road grader, he said yea sure, then i let him deal with my mother, who didnt take as kindly to the idea of having a giant road grader around, but we have alot of land so it wasnt too bad. i then bought my ford 8000 the next year, paid 4000 bucks for it, my mother was basicly just like its your money do what ya want, even tho she didnt see why i needed it.

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KURT (mi)

10-08-2003 08:35:27




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 Re: Re: How Do I Convince Mom I Need a Tractor?? in reply to markct, 10-08-2003 08:00:18  
It is nice to have a tractor, but you may want a car instead. You really cant take your girlfriend to the movies with a tractor. Besides a tractor doesnt have a backseat.



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JW

10-10-2003 20:03:59




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 Re: Re: Re: How Do I Convince Mom I Need a Tractor in reply to KURT (mi), 10-08-2003 08:35:27  
A farmall B (or other offset tractor) has plenty of room for a side seat, and a small hay wagon will hold a full sized bed with some privacy curtains on the sides of the wagon.



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markct

10-08-2003 17:38:57




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 Re: Re: Re: How Do I Convince Mom I Need a Tractor in reply to KURT (mi), 10-08-2003 08:35:27  
yup thats true, of course when it came to the car part, i got a crew cab F350 so i got a truck, but i got a bigger backseat than most cars, so i killed two birds with one stone on that one



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Allan

10-08-2003 04:23:25




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 Re: How Do I Convince Mom I Need a Tractor?? in reply to Nathan, 10-07-2003 18:37:26  
Hi Nathan,

Just an observation here, but it seems to me that you are growing up very straight and very tall.

Like someone else stated here, if I lived closer to you, I would buy you the tractor, give you access to a place to work on it, and let you scratch around in my dirt with it, if your Mom said it was okay.

Keep headin' in the direction you are going young man, and you will one day get that tractor. I'm proud of you and I don't even know you.

**Now, print out all of these responses that you have received here from all of these "salt of the earth" people and take 'em to your Mom.

This woman certainly knows how to raise a kid and will do the right thing one way or the other. If she tells you "No, not just yet", then listen to her, because she has done one heck of a good job raising you so far.

Just my 2 cents,

Allan

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Steve - IN

10-07-2003 23:41:32




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 Re: How Do I Convince Mom I Need a Tractor?? in reply to Nathan, 10-07-2003 18:37:26  
Nathan,

Every parent should want their child's life to be better than theirs. I'm a Dad, but let's assume that Moms and Dads think alike on this point - that is, they want their kids to live long and have a healthy and happy life. Shouldn't be much argument there.

Statistics show that the two biggest hurdles or blocks to having some kind of life after 18 are dropping out of high school and having a baby before you're 20 years old.

So in this Dad's view, the two biggest arguments are that you're going to be out in the shed working on the old tractor on Friday and Saturday night instead of making her grand baby in lover's lane. The second thing is that old tractor is going to teach you things you don't know -- and leave you wondering and thirsting for more. How are you going to solve those mysteries? Simple, you stay in school and learn more science to understand the how's, why's and wherefore's that make that old tractor work -- and by extension have made every machine since then work. You may never understand how men and woman think, but if you understand how the machines invented by men and women using the principles of the universe work -- no one can every call you ignorant or uneducated. And if any self-important shrink, lawyer or politician who claims to know how the minds of people work ever has his car break down -- you let him walk until he admits ignorance.

As a parent, I'd be proud to to have you out in my shed on any old Saturday night trying to make any old tractor come to life.

If this whole story doesn't fly with your Mom, tell it to your Grand Dad and see if he can't have some affect on you Mom.

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Andy

10-07-2003 20:39:51




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 Re: How Do I Convince Mom I Need a Tractor?? in reply to Nathan, 10-07-2003 18:37:26  
Tell her you need this tractor in order to stay off drugs.



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JD G GUY

10-07-2003 20:35:42




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 Re: How Do I Convince Mom I Need a Tractor?? in reply to Nathan, 10-07-2003 18:37:26  
i guess you could start saving some money, that helped my parents with my 4 wheeler. as far as tractors go my parents bought the B because i told them it would pull my moms escort outta snow drifts like thats its job and to disc the weeds in our field. as as far as the G me and a buddy moved it out here... both are JDs



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JK-NY

10-07-2003 20:08:04




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 Re: How Do I Convince Mom I Need a Tractor?? in reply to Nathan, 10-07-2003 18:37:26  

May be you could convince your grandfatheer easier and keep the tractor at his place next door.



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Uncle

10-07-2003 19:57:10




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 Re: How Do I Convince Mom I Need a Tractor?? in reply to Nathan, 10-07-2003 18:37:26  
Nathan, the oldest trick in the book , "Ma, it's educational, good clean fun and an investment" My son purcashed a 60 year old tractor, missing parts and engine was stuck, his mother is proud as I am of his choice of hobby, I thank my lucky stars that my kids are not jocks!!!!



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Jerry Fried

10-07-2003 19:47:25




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 Re: How Do I Convince Mom I Need a Tractor?? in reply to Nathan, 10-07-2003 18:37:26  
Nathan, yes it does help if you live in Minnesota. So do I. First thing is to go to tractor or threshing shows. Second is to join a tractor collecting club. These are important because you get to see the various "other" tractors, and become familiar with why other people buy them. Take (at least invite) your Mom and Dad, if possible. Show a healthy interest in tracotrs and what they do. Save money, and get what you can and like. Get permission if you can.
Good luck.
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Jay

10-07-2003 19:31:47




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 Re: How Do I Convince Mom I Need a Tractor?? in reply to Nathan, 10-07-2003 18:37:26  
Last fall, when I came home with my M (my wife not knowing I was) she asked what I needed it for (We don't farm). I said that the loader would be handy around the yard. She wasn't convinced.

This spring, when she wanted a bunch of dirt in her flower beds, I jumped to it. Even though the nearest field is only 150 feet away, 10 yards, a wheelbarrow at a time is a big task. We've done it before. Then shovel, then rake, etc. to get it smooth. One hour later with the loader, it was hauled, leveled and smooth. It convinced her that it was worth having around.

Long story short: I think you will probably have to bite the bullet and buy it yourself (I don't recommend without permission, but Dad's are maybe easier here), and eventually, it will show itself so useful that you will be an absolute genius for getting it (and forever the favorite son).

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JD-Tractor

10-07-2003 18:49:22




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 Re: How Do I Convince Mom I Need a Tractor?? in reply to Nathan, 10-07-2003 18:37:26  
Sounds like my problem 40 years ago, I fell in love with a John Deere H when I was 15 didn't live on a farm ,got a job working for a neighbor Christmas Tree farm and convinced my mom that since I wanted to farm then it was only proper that I had a tractor sit in the driveway. believe it or not this actually worked !!!!!



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Nathan's Follow Up to his

10-07-2003 18:41:45




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 Re: How Do I Convince Mom I Need a Tractor?? in reply to Nathan, 10-07-2003 18:37:26  
I forgot to say: I live in Minnesota. Does this help?

Nathan



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Les...fortunate

10-07-2003 18:55:41




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 Re: Re: How Do I Convince Mom I Need a Tractor?? in reply to Nathan's Follow Up to his, 10-07-2003 18:41:45  
Well, Nathan, (my son's name, BTW) how about you go out and find one and figure out how to pay for it and get it home by yourself. Something small to start with maybe, like an Economy. If it had a plow or something you could plow gardens with it.
The young man who is bringing my '44 Case SC back to life just turned 16 last summer. He lives in town. He has 2 Economy tractors and a Wheel Horse. When he gets done with the SC, I'm going to give him my VAC. There's no farming in his ancestry but he just loves old tractors, especially Cases. Good luck to you. If you would move to NH, I'd buy another project tractor just for you to have something to do. ";^)
BTW, I am one old guy who appreciates that somebody your age not only has the ability to spell, punctuate, and correctly construct a sentence, but cares enough to do it. Good for you.

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farmallsc

10-08-2003 16:02:42




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 Re: Re: Re: How Do I Convince Mom I Need a Tractor in reply to Les...fortunate, 10-07-2003 18:55:41  
i live in NH you know where to get parts for a 51 super c in the state?



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David UK

10-09-2003 03:09:20




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: How Do I Convince Mom I Need a Tra in reply to farmallsc, 10-08-2003 16:02:42  
If you get a tractor and work on it you will learn a lot about machinery and mechanical repairs. In particular you will learn how to go about them. Having this sort of skill will allow you to work on cars and many other things in the future and will save you and those you help out a fortune over the years. Only snag is that you will never have any spare time and you'll never be free of people asking you to fix something for them. (best policy on that is to help some of them that you think deserve it, for free, and have a strictly cash on the barrelhead policy for the rest, if only to compensate you for the loss of your free time.)

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