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rusty ray

09-29-2003 12:49:36




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I was recently given a F-350. The person that had it before me used one of the one-step rust removal products on the frame and did not primer it afterwards. Now it has lots of surface rust with no pitting evident. I pulled the motor and want to paint the frame before winter and the cold sets in. (I bathed the rusted parts in WD-40 and used motor oil) Would reapplying the one-step rust removal (after wire brushing) then cover with a etching primer be a good plan of attack? What should I put over the primer? I don't have any painting equipment (paint gun etc..)

Thanks Ray

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Bob G

09-30-2003 11:03:07




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 Re: rust in reply to rusty ray, 09-29-2003 12:49:36  
You can use either POR 15 or Zero Stop and not have to prime and paint them. They come in different colors.

Bob



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JD-Tractor

09-29-2003 19:20:44




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 Re: rust in reply to rusty ray, 09-29-2003 12:49:36  
Get some rust-mort !!Anybody that sells auto painting supplies should be able to supply. It is basically phosphoric acid sells for $18.00 a quart



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Stan TN

09-29-2003 16:40:10




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 Re: rust in reply to rusty ray, 09-29-2003 12:49:36  
There is a chemical that converts rust to primer. It is pretty expensive as it comes in small bottles, but I once saw an add for quarts, just can't remember where. Do a web search on "rust converter".



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Ol Chief

09-29-2003 22:06:24




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 Re: Re: rust in reply to Stan TN, 09-29-2003 16:40:10  
In the marine industry (Ospho) tradename is widely used prior to primer paint.This product is a rust converter.I am told by One of their distributers that ospho contains 76 percent Phosphoric acid plus some buffers.This material stops rust by converting iron oxide to iron phosphate.In past on seagoing ships I have seen thousands of gallons of this stuff used over a period of years.White works on ships are very difficult to maintain due to rust stain bleeding thru the paint.If a 50 percent water mix is used it will remove all chalk like deposits along with stainsand provides a skin that prevents further bleeding .Often seen this hold from several days to weeks.I use it on my old tractors just to see where the paint stops and the rust begins.It is for use on surface rust,not heavy scale.However small scaled pieces will be descaled if submerged in the solution for a timebut be careful not to leave parts to long or they may be reduced.I suggest after water rinse, to rinse again in a mild solution of water and baking soda to neutralize any thing left in the pores of the metal.That is not necessary if you are just coating in way of painting large surfaces.I am in Texas and can find Ospho at the hardwear store For $17.00 Per gallon.There are other similar products around.Coroseal is a different type product and hard to find.

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rusty

09-30-2003 06:31:40




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 Re: Re: Re: rust in reply to Ol Chief, 09-29-2003 22:06:24  
Thanks. I live on the Atlantic coast and will hit the marine supply stores this evening.



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SD Rust Bug

09-29-2003 18:02:26




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 Re: Re: rust in reply to Stan TN, 09-29-2003 16:40:10  
I believe the product you're looking for is ChemPrime. It's main ingredient I believe is Phosporic acid. Apply it to bare metal. It will turn white. Prime or paint over it without rinsing it off.



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