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Oldfarmboy Jim

08-12-2003 23:16:03

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I've been bringing a TD340 w/Drott 4-n-1 back to life after sitting over 5 years. She'll start up now and idle smoothly, the other day I adjusted the steering clutches and brakes so she'll also go, stop and turn. While testing out the drive mechanism, three hyd. hoses burst withiin about three minutes. From your various experiences, what is the best source of replacement hoses. There's a "Hose Pros" nearby, MF/Cub Cadet dealer about 20 miles away, a Case dealer, and an equipment rental/sales place that said they can fabricate hoses. Are hyd. systems standarized enough that I could go into a shop with one of the burst hoses and have them pull a replacement off the shelf? I've been away from the farm for thirty four years and can't recall ever having to replace a hyd. hose. Thanks in advance for sharing your knowledge and experience, Jim

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08-13-2003 11:31:51

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Re: Sources for replacement Hyd. Lines in reply to Oldfarmboy Jim, 08-12-2003 23:16:03

WOW! Lots of great responses. Thanks guys, I hadn't thought about the pressure relief valve sticking and being the cause of the hoses bursting. This TD340 is a 1960 model and all the hoses except two look like they are original equipment. I'll check the output pressure and then visit a few shops. I'm glad YTMAG gives us these discussion forums to share the straight skinny on. Jim

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TimV

08-13-2003 08:33:18

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Re: Sources for replacement Hyd. Lines in reply to Oldfarmboy Jim, 08-12-2003 23:16:03

Jim: As you have to take the hose off anyway, the best way is to take it with you to your place of choice and let them match it up. There are several different classes and types of hose ends, and a "standard" may or may not work. Around here, NAPA offers hoses made to order, as do most of the farm equipment dealers. If this is an older machine, the pressure rating is probably reasonably low--1000 to 2000 PSI. The newer machines can go up to 5000, which requires special (read: expensive and harder to find) hose. Any knowledgable hose repair place should be able to tell you what you need.

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Chris-se-ILL

08-13-2003 08:33:06

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Re: Sources for replacement Hyd. Lines in reply to Oldfarmboy Jim, 08-12-2003 23:16:03

First off try checking pressure relief and making sure that the only problem is "old hose"...

I have a local "hydraulics repair" shop that is really good! They only use "Weatherhead" hose and fittings (great looking hoses too!). And, they can make up any length that I need (so there is not sagging extra length). Most all "off-the shelf" hose that I have used is always adequate for most jobs... but I appreciate the extra detail and effort that the specialty shop does for me at almost no extra charge. And by giving them my business (and establishing a customer relation) they have helped me out at critical times... like when I break down and need a hose on short notice, or at closing time on a weekend.

Furthermore, I have found that on really small hyd. lines (steering, brakes) the shop makes better/stronger hoses than any off-the-shelf stuff.

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paul

08-13-2003 06:42:05

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Re: Sources for replacement Hyd. Lines in reply to Oldfarmboy Jim, 08-12-2003 23:16:03

Good advise so far.

Farm supply stores offer common lengths of hose premade, generally the lowest price & average quality.

You can find different levels of quality & workmanship at different hose making places. Kinda have to try it & see. Not all hose is made equal.

--->Paul

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Trevor

08-13-2003 05:10:00

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Re: Sources for replacement Hyd. Lines in reply to Oldfarmboy Jim, 08-12-2003 23:16:03

The only thing I would add is if you have someone make new hoses make sure that the ferrule (crimp sleeve) is crimped properly.

At a place I used to work the mechanic wouldn't crimp the new hose ends properly and they would sometimes let go.

Just a caution.

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kip

08-13-2003 01:55:20

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Re: Sources for replacement Hyd. Lines in reply to Oldfarmboy Jim, 08-12-2003 23:16:03

Most equipment dealers and auto parts stores can make up quality hoses. Since you will need to remove the hose anyway, pull it off and take it with you. then they can get length and fittings correct.

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Ben in KY

08-13-2003 01:24:50

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Re: Sources for replacement Hyd. Lines in reply to Oldfarmboy Jim, 08-12-2003 23:16:03

You might want to hook up a pressure gauge to it and see if your pressure relief valve is working properly. Bursting 3 hoses that fast might indicate too much pressure. or rotten hoses, but something to check maybe.

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Howard Yoshida

08-13-2003 00:50:41

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Re: Sources for replacement Hyd. Lines in reply to Oldfarmboy Jim, 08-12-2003 23:16:03

Aloha, I wouldn't get a universal hose because it might be too long or a little shorter. Is the tractor a IH? I would either get a genuine hose or have one made using the dimensions from the existing hose.

Mahalo,
Howard

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