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Junked diesel tractor engine for stationary use

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Ray

07-10-2003 13:55:17




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I need a 50-60+ hp diesel engine to run a sawmill. A decent engine from a wrecked, worn out or lousy tractor would be perfect. Any recommendations for what years/types/makes that I might look for in junkyards that would serve the purpose? Oddballs or orphans are probably ok. As usual money is the main issue. What should I expect to pay for such a beast? Are there engines for combines or other outmoded equiptment besides tractors that I should consider? Thanks so much.
Ray Griffiths

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Bill in Ohio

07-12-2003 07:03:47




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 Re: junked diesel tractor engine for stationary us in reply to Ray, 07-10-2003 13:55:17  
I have been running an M14 with a 46inch blade off the pto of a 1520 John Deere. Tractor came up with a transmission problem so it is a dandy power unit now, you just hook up the shaft and you are ready to saw, trust me pulleys, belts, bearings etc are not usually cheap and need more attention than that pto shaft. I have a rope tied to the foot feed so the engine comes alive when you need it. The M14 doesnt move fast enough to actually need all those teeth, either. Each tooth takes about the same horsepower whether it is just taking a tiny cut, or its engineered maximum, so, I took out every other tooth and replaced them with old teeth ground off. The saw does much better with bigger chips, the saw stays sharp longer, easier to sharpen, and half price to replace teeth. I would recomend a steel frame for your saw, that wood will move enough to cause problems. Mine is a portable set up, just drop it and get it level and be sawing in 15 minutes. Good luck!

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Farmer/Paul

07-12-2003 04:11:05




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 Re: junked diesel tractor engine for stationary us in reply to Ray, 07-10-2003 13:55:17  
You might look for an engine from a Zetor or Belarus tractor. The Belarus drive line was less than perfect but either makers make very reliable fuel efficent engines. Finding a Belarus with a dead trans or diff may be quite easy.



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Bob

07-11-2003 19:24:53




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 Re: junked diesel tractor engine for stationary us in reply to Ray, 07-10-2003 13:55:17  
Possibly an engine on an old Massey combine, seemed like some of them had a Perkins engine. Also a later modle Uni but they are probably pretty pricy. I expect the Deere and IH have a lot of shared components with tractors and are more expensive also.



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Bus Driver

07-11-2003 17:06:03




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 Re: junked diesel tractor engine for stationary us in reply to Ray, 07-10-2003 13:55:17  
The best power for a sawmill is electric. A 75HP electric motor will power a sawmill better than a 125 HP Diesel. An old Detroit 2 cycle Diesel has twice the power impulses of a 4 cycle Diesel with the same number of cylinders at a given crankshaft speed and thus is smoother for belt operation. But I do understand using whatever you can find at the "right" price. Look for 75 to 85 HP- you will like that extra power.

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RayP(MI)

07-10-2003 18:28:39




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 Re: junked diesel tractor engine for stationary us in reply to Ray, 07-10-2003 13:55:17  
I would look for an engine off a combine or baler, rather than a tractor. Should be easier to mount, and would be essentially self contained. Don't overlook some of the smaller auto engines, too. they'll require mounting, and other monkeying issues too however!



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Ray

07-10-2003 20:41:12




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 Re: Re: junked diesel tractor engine for stationar in reply to RayP(MI), 07-10-2003 18:28:39  
Thanks for the advice. Previous owner of the mill used a Buick with a pto spline bolted to the rear axle. Others have said that cars will overheat engine and trans if used very hard. Fuel cost is also an issue. Exploring my options at this point. Thanks again.



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tom

07-10-2003 18:16:14




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 Re: junked diesel tractor engine for stationary us in reply to Ray, 07-10-2003 13:55:17  
I have a 50 hp. duetz diesel , complete setup with shaft, air cooled, starter, alternator- $1200, runs excellent



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Les...fortunate

07-10-2003 16:51:07




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 Re: junked diesel tractor engine for stationary us in reply to Ray, 07-10-2003 13:55:17  
I bet you won't have any trouble finding something suitable. We have a Case LAE running our Lane #1 mill and it does the job real fine. As long as you're in no particular hurry. Doesn't use a whole lot of fuel either.
What kind of a mill have you got? Are you running just the carriage, saw and blower or do you have any live rolls, edgers, etc.?



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Ray

07-10-2003 20:31:54




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 Re: Re: junked diesel tractor engine for stationar in reply to Les...fortunate, 07-10-2003 16:51:07  
Strictly low rent - lots of time to find it, just need to know what to look for. Recently bought an old Belsaw m-14, in the process of setting it up, hope to have it going by next summer. May add other equipt if I am busy enough. Buried right now putting my IH T340 back together after an engine transplant. Need it together asap to drag out sections of a ~30" Doug Fir I hope to have milled for the frame for the saw and shed to cover. Located in Ca. Sierra Nevada, have 25 ac. of pine, oak, maple, etc. Thanks,
Ray

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