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John Fugit

07-07-2003 04:36:54




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My wife thought I was nuts. (Maybe she's right... but that's for another story) I hauled home an old Massey-Ferguson 50 a few weeks ago. We have several newer tractors, and don't really need any more. (Is it possible to EVER have enough tractors?) I had to tell her about where it came from. It was the first new tractor that my father ever bought. He had it delivered on the day I was born. (08-04-57) It had seen a many a hard day, but was still in good shape. I started the "restoration" that day. It needed a new exhaust system, it had a leak in the oil presuure gauge, The generator didn't work. And the wiring was in poor shape. I've got everything done, and it's ready to paint. My dad is smiling down on me, I know it. We farm about 1800 acres. Most of what I've bought over the years is John Deere. I have a 4955, a 4440, a 2440, and a 4020. We've got out of the dairy business, and just grain farm now. We started getting our wheat in, just about the time I got the old 50. Everything went well, and the crop was in the bins. We sell about 5000 bales of straw, per year, to a landscape contractor, that I went to school with. We started bailing straw. I sent the 4955 in for a needed overhaul. The 4440 then decided to go on the fritz. We had to send it to the shop, for some TLC on the injector pump. That left the job to the 2440 and the 4020. Well, the sad story just keeps getting sadder. The 4020 blew a radiator. It got parked. The 2440 then fell victim to what the John Deere dealer called "electrolisis". Rust particles in the cooling system, literally burn a hole in the cylinder sleeves, causing coolant to end up in the oil, and the engine to overheat. The dealer is just about to open a service center, on our farm. They have all 4 of my "new" tractors. The straw buyer has a truck sent to the farm, as we get the straw bailed. He has it trucked abou 75 miles to his shop. The truck was scheduled, and I had very little straw ready. The old Massey-Ferguson 50 came to the rescue! We hooked up the bailer, and had a grand time. It performed flawlessly. My dad sure would have been proud. A 46 year old, way too small, antique saved the day. And now my wife has quit harrassing me about the old rusty Massey, taking up space in the garage. In fact, now she wants to send it to a friend, that restores old tractors, for a needed paint job, for my birthday. (And the old Massey's birthday, too!)

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RayP(MI)

07-07-2003 17:09:04




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 Re: Old tractor saves the day. in reply to John Fugit, 07-07-2003 04:36:54  
Yeah, don't underestimate some of the oldies - we're using a '49 JD B, and a '56 Farmall 200. Both will do a good job on a smaller baler - we're putting up about 60 acres this summer. JD is one my teenage son restored last fall/winter. Almost seems a shame to put it to work! But it still handles the baler and a wagon load!



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Brown Dirt Cowboy

07-07-2003 11:18:09




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 Re: Old tractor saves the day. in reply to John Fugit, 07-07-2003 04:36:54  
John I beleive if you check a Massey delivered in August 1957 would be a Massey- Harris not a Massey-Ferguson. I have a '57 Massey-Harris 50 that I have had for 15 years and on my 5 acres it isn't too small or too old. Have fun with the Massey. Tom



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Connie

08-30-2004 18:44:52




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 Re: Re: Old tractor saves the day. in reply to Brown Dirt Cowboy, 07-07-2003 11:18:09  
I have a massey harris ferguson, 1950. It says that on the tractor. I think they were only made a couple of years with the three names. I am trying to find out the value of it. Would you have any idea. Thanks. Also trying to find a steering box for it.



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Dick Kline

07-07-2003 09:22:09




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 Re: Old tractor saves the day. in reply to John Fugit, 07-07-2003 04:36:54  
This is the very reason I will never every buy another vehicle the doesn't 5 3/4" or 7" head lights!

I'm trying to convice a neighbor (new to gentlemen farming) that the old stuff he can fix and will survive on minimal, no or the wrong maintence

Let's here it for Farmall M's, JD A's and MF 35's, they will outlast us all..... ..... .



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mj

07-07-2003 07:06:56




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 Re: Old tractor saves the day. in reply to John Fugit, 07-07-2003 04:36:54  
Bet you had a BIG smile on your face after the first dozen bales! :-)



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BillWV

07-07-2003 06:32:40




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 Re: Old tractor saves the day. in reply to John Fugit, 07-07-2003 04:36:54  
Great story. I'm curious about what happened to the 2440. Some diesels have a know problem with coolant cavitation. It has to do with the frequency that the engine vibrates; causes small bubbles in the coolant that create hot spots on the cylinder (we're talking wet sleeves). The hot spots wear faster and pit the cylinder wall at best; at worst, they burn through. Apparently, some engines suffer from it, some don't; but I believe there is a coolant additive or maybe even a special coolant that is supposed to help.
Bill

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Howard H.

07-07-2003 07:44:12




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 Re: Re: Old tractor saves the day. in reply to BillWV, 07-07-2003 06:32:40  
Hi,

Yes - cavitation will eat through a cylinder liner very quickly if the conditions are right (or wrong!).

I have an 895 Versatile with an 855 Cummins turbo & aftercooled - a 360 hp engine. One summer I got a small leak in the radiator, but we just kept running it - being careful to add water regularly.

That worked great, except I didn't know I was diluting the anti-cavitation solution.

Within just a few weeks, I was getting water in the oil.

The Cummins mechanic who put the cylinder kit in to fix it said that cavitation is worse the more horsepower per cubic inch the engine develops and how hard the engine is working. He said it can even happen in just a matter of hours if conditions are really bad.

Each liner looked like termites had been eating on it - a vertical band of small holes up and down each side.

It was a pretty expensive lesson on me - I since keep a Cummins test kit of strips that test the coolant water and make sure the preventitive is strong enough.

Glad to hear the old iron saved the day!


Howard Henderson

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Deas Plant.

07-07-2003 06:10:35




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 Re: Old tractor saves the day. in reply to John Fugit, 07-07-2003 04:36:54  
Hi, John. Good one, Mate. Those old MF's may not have been the powerhouses that some of today's tractors are supposed to be but they were HONEST and, given reasonable care and maintenance, there is no reason why they should not still be capable of a fair day's work. As you've just proven.

Hope you have many more happy experiences with the old girl.

You have a wonderful day. Best wishes. Deas Plant.

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Farmer in the Dells (WI)

07-07-2003 06:05:15




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 Re: Old tractor saves the day. in reply to John Fugit, 07-07-2003 04:36:54  
Did not know Massey made a "two seater" Have a great day!



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Barnz

07-07-2003 05:09:15




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 Re: Old tractor saves the day. in reply to John Fugit, 07-07-2003 04:36:54  
Love that story. DO you have any pics of the Massey? Kinda strange, how a antique tractor out works the newer tractors.
Barnz



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