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Stumpalump

06-12-2007 08:16:23




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I'm in a situation and have no knowlege of horses their upkeep or cost. My primary residence is on 2 1/2 acers and is zoned for horses. At the end of our street we have county open space with trails that allow riding. My 11 year old step doughter has been given a horse by the evil other part of her family because they want her to move in with them and to drive a stake between me and her when I say you can't bring the horse. I don't know if I want it because I no nothing about them and will need to do improvments to the property ($$$). I have allways said that I will never base a decition on anything that that part of her family says or does. They really are evil. But a horse maybe would be a good thing. I don't know. I am in Colorado and will need a barn for it but what about cost of feeding and vet ect? My lot is mostly Pondarosa pine trees and scrub oak with a little natual grass.

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Stumpalump

06-12-2007 18:46:53




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 Re: OT horses in reply to Stumpalump, 06-12-2007 08:16:23  
Thanks Guys, I think I will see how bad I'm pressured by the 11 year old and give her a "we'll see" for a while.



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Midwest redneck

06-12-2007 14:59:43




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 Re: OT horses in reply to Stumpalump, 06-12-2007 08:16:23  
What I would do is get her an adorable puppy...for your step daughter and she will forget about the horse. (I could never see owning a horse, the upkeep, the food, the smell) You do need a lot more then 2.5 acres for a horse.



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tmay

06-12-2007 14:36:12




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 Re: OT horses in reply to Stumpalump, 06-12-2007 08:16:23  
I'll tell you straight up not enough room. It will take about 5 acres to graze a horse. Then there is the feed, vet, cleaning stalls. I know i have 8 of them. I will admit my wife takes care of them mostly. Good luck



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Allan In NE

06-12-2007 12:12:59




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 Re: OT horses in reply to Stumpalump, 06-12-2007 08:16:23  
Forget it. You don't have room enough for a horse.

That's like people in town who own a dog and keep it in a 6X6 fence.

Allan



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Dave from MN

06-12-2007 12:00:37




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 Re: OT horses in reply to Stumpalump, 06-12-2007 08:16:23  
Oh yes the joys of mixed families. First stay with your values. Any way, I personally would NOT succomb(?)to having all that investment out of fear of being the (bad) parent. An animil would be a great experience for your daughter, but they are a lot of work and SHE WILL need to be responsible for it. Start with something smaller if she wants an animal, or heck have the (evil doers?)go halvsies with you on the upgrades, I deal with your situation about every other week with my daughters mom and my step sons dad. If they ever bark out I hate it here, I wanna live with my_____ _! I say go ahead pack your crap then. They shut right up, then I tell them later that I love them they can do what they think they should do when they are old enough to overide the judges order, but then they are gonna stick with it an not play musical chairs, but then being an ex manufacturing manager, it doesnt bother me being the "bad cop" everynow and then

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Lou

06-12-2007 11:22:28




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 Re: OT horses in reply to Stumpalump, 06-12-2007 08:16:23  
Hey Stump, after reading all the responses you have it occured to me maybe you should buy the inlaws a pet, a rattle snake, or maybe an elephant.



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souNdguy

06-12-2007 11:15:32




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 Re: OT horses in reply to Stumpalump, 06-12-2007 08:16:23  
Some more info... don't worry about the coggins test unless you plan to event the horse or travel with it.

Also DO plan on a mineral lick.. preferably the brown trace mineral block vs the white salt.. or yellow salt.

Nutrena makes a slightly cheaper 'maintenance feed for horses at about 7$ a bad.. otherwise.. everything else has been said.. horses are hard on pasture..

Soundguy



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mjbrown

06-12-2007 11:09:18




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 Re: OT horses in reply to Stumpalump, 06-12-2007 08:16:23  
It's just plain wrong and trouble making to offer the girl a horse with out checking with you first. That said I got horses for my girls when they were in their early teens and ridng lessons. I think it gave them a focus other than themselves and maybe kept them out of trouble. It is also good leverage for getting good grades. A bribe is perhaps a better word. It sounds like this girl has adults messing with her head and maybe needs a horse. I suggest getting her a good one and not just some mutt who isn't wanted because it has bad habits.

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horsey no

06-12-2007 11:05:20




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 Re: OT horses in reply to Stumpalump, 06-12-2007 08:16:23  
All horses are good for is makeing hay in to cubes.



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Billy NY

06-12-2007 10:55:26




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 Re: OT horses in reply to Stumpalump, 06-12-2007 08:16:23  
Most of it's been said already. You would be smart to figure generously, a budget, based on things mentioned below, and see if it can be afforded. Not sure how your winters are, but might be a good idea to have some sort of shelter, walk in at minimum, for those bad weather days. You'll need a place to store your goods/supplies too. Manure, well if not in a stall you won't need bedding, but you'll want to keep your paddock area cleaned up and tidy, could make a small compost pile, it works well and if you have a garden it will benefit

Also good to know what that horse has for a personality, and the riding ability of your stepdaughter. If it is something she cannot handle at this time, I'd be hesitant to get her involved at all. She would benefit highly from lessons by an experienced trainer who deals with kids, and an education about horses in general, this is very important. I'd also have a serious talk with her about the entire responsibility, the extra work and costs involved, she would have to demonstrate a serious interest and an ability to do the extra work required, for the privilige being afforded her by you. Both of you have to understand that it's a 24/7 365 days a year commitment, every day you have chores to do and that horse will need attention, feed, grooming and exercise. Don't get me wrong, takes some getting used to and if it does not pan out, make the change immediately. I grew up around thorough bred show horses, and still get involved on occasion, most of my knowledge is on the work side of things, supporting a barn with 30-40 of them. We stopped giving lessons at our place and no longer have any boarders and or customers, things are a lot more managable now. Very difficult to find decent help and I can recall the times when bedding was hard to find, decent hay hard to get, vet bills, blacksmith bills maintenance around the place, money was short, it happens, and it does not end until things give or the horses are gone. Our neighbor up there, across the street has 3 daughters, 2 always took a serious interest in horses, and they have kept their horses at our place and were very responsible with them, but it also helps when they too have a small farm, they grew up in the environment.

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georgeky

06-12-2007 09:32:48




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 Re: OT horses in reply to Stumpalump, 06-12-2007 08:16:23  
All horses do is eat. They are a dead expense. My kids quit riding or taking care of thiers and pawned them off on me, so I sold the money pits.



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Turtle

06-12-2007 09:19:33




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 Re: OT horses in reply to Stumpalump, 06-12-2007 08:16:23  
I have 2 quarters and a Shetland and as mentioned before your in for some money loss on horses. The good thing I have found with ours is that my two daughters are more interested in their horses at this time than they are in boys. With one girl at 17 and the other 12 it helps ease my mind a little bit, just don’t know how much longer that’s going to last.



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Curt from MN

06-12-2007 09:12:24




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 Re: OT horses in reply to Stumpalump, 06-12-2007 08:16:23  
One very important reason for NOT getting one horse is the danger of riding alone. Especially in this day and age the dangers for an 11 year old girl! And cell phones are not great help if you are lying on the ground all busted up. Unfortunately this is a reality that can happen. Check with neighbors who have horses to see if they would be willing to board in exchange for your step daughter working around the stalls or whatever they use and you supply the feed/hay and vet support.

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Brokenwrench

06-12-2007 08:51:06




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 Re: OT horses in reply to Stumpalump, 06-12-2007 08:16:23  
2 1/2 acres isn`t much for pasturing, but you should be able to keep a horse on it. You`ll be feeding year round. You can`t count on a horse to leave a small pasture in any shape for grazing, they`ll take it right to the dirt. I don`t know what small squares go for in your area, but they`de be the best option. Then you have shots, tack, the farrier, and an occasional visit from the vet. You already mentioned fencing and some kind of enclosure both for the horse and the hay. You can figure on alittle less than one small square bale a day. Personally I`m not big on graining horses if they are staying healthy and keeping wieght on.
Alot of your shots and wormers you can get right at a farm supply store, saving the vet charge. Another thing to consider is having to get a trailer of some sort. Also, depending on the horse, it may need some time put on it by someone with experience before you turn it over to your daughter, and if you`re not real familiar with horses, you might want to consider getting her some sort of riding lessons. Believe me, I`m not trying to discourage you, but there`s alot of upkeep and time that goes into a kid horse. So if you take the plunge, be ready, but they do kinda grow on you. If you`re new to horses, one thing to remember is that they don`t make a very good pet. They`re herd animal, and you will be it`s new herd. I`ve seen horses get real bad habits and people get hurt because they`re treated like pets. Good luck with whatever you decide. Hope this helped some Brokenwrench

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Lou

06-12-2007 08:48:31




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 Re: OT horses in reply to Stumpalump, 06-12-2007 08:16:23  
Must be in the water out there in Co, my grand daughter who lives there just got a horse, they board it out at $250. per month. Im sure if the animal gets diarea there is is an extra charge.



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old

06-12-2007 08:38:49




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 Re: OT horses in reply to Stumpalump, 06-12-2007 08:16:23  
Horses can end up costing a lot of $$. Also with just one they get lonely. Feed you can figure at least $10 per month if not more, then theres hay with if you don't have the grass you will need to buy at $10 or so per square bale. Yep I know horses I have 3.5 of them right now. You ask how 0.5 well we have one thats only a couple weeks old right now it was a surprise foal. I've had horses now for 10 plus years there nice to have but a lot of work and $$

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55 50

06-12-2007 08:56:01




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 Re: OT horses in reply to old, 06-12-2007 08:38:49  
wow, $10 dollars or so per bale? Is that the small squares? Here in MN I see them advertised for typically $2 to $3 per bale.



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old

06-12-2007 08:59:58




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 Re: OT horses in reply to 55 50, 06-12-2007 08:56:01  
Yep small squares but of course thats not just grass hay but what is called horse hay which is a mix which is far better for horses then stright grass hay



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pair=a=dice farm

06-12-2007 18:52:29




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 Re: OT horses in reply to old, 06-12-2007 08:59:58  
I guess horses are like kids, if you spoil them they think they need the best. I've had 4-5 horses all my life 50+ years mine ate what the cows ate never had any problems to amount to anything. I always figured they survived for thousands of years on what nature provided and anything that I gave them was gravy. They still are in good shape and do the work.



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old

06-12-2007 19:16:49




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 Re: OT horses in reply to pair=a=dice farm, 06-12-2007 18:52:29  
Yep my self I almost never buy hay but I only have 3.5 horses so I have enough land that I can bale and also graze the horses on the same land. Most years I even sell a few bales of hay. My horses get whats there and don't seem to ever want more. But I do every year try to seed in more clover on the place

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Matt from CT

06-12-2007 11:23:19




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 Re: OT horses in reply to old, 06-12-2007 08:59:58  
One of the women from my Dalmatian board who lives in an upscale part of the Carolinas was talking last year of horse hay pushing $17/bale :eek:

For that price, *I* could make a living as a farmer!

Well horse people as is are finicky on hay, from what she said their "coastal hay" was particularly poor so hay was imported from further inland then local farms...



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4010guy

06-12-2007 08:35:46




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 Re: OT horses in reply to Stumpalump, 06-12-2007 08:16:23  
I wish you lotsa luck on that one,,,Young girls just seem to love there horses



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