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Brush hogs, rear cutters-Who is good

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Gun guru

03-16-2008 07:18:25




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I will be buying a rear grass cutter, likely a brush hog. But who makes the best for the money, King kutter? Howse? Woods? I know that it will be about $700-800 for it I need a 4-5 foot one.




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chuck davis

03-19-2008 04:35:35




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 Re: Brush hogs, rear cutters-Who is good in reply to Gun guru, 03-16-2008 07:18:25  
If you are going to cut just grass and weeds the King Kutter will be o.k.

If you are going to actually cut brush and saplings run from a King Kutter it will rattle itself to death. Gear box will shake loose welds will crack.

I have both a K.K and a woods. Woods is a far superior tool,also 3 times the cost.



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Chuck (CA)

03-16-2008 20:19:47




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 Re: Brush hogs, rear cutters-Who is good in reply to Gun guru, 03-16-2008 07:18:25  
I bought a King Kutter 5 footer (yellow) about 10 years ago to put behind my Ferguson TO 30. I now have a Massey 35. I cut 5 acres of our own pasture and about 2 1/2 acres for our widow neighbor. I deal with the occasional sapling and the chunk of metal and it hasn't been a problem. Since I leave it out, the paint has flaked off in spots, so I grind off the rust and shoot some primer on it. But other than that, no problem.

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Kevin in OK

03-16-2008 14:25:21




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 Re: Brush hogs, rear cutters-Who is good in reply to Gun guru, 03-16-2008 07:18:25  
We have a 5ft Howse that we've had for 10 or 12 years and its done fine. I'll second the flail mower idea, as we've got a Befco flail just under 5' that gives a nice clean cut, almost like a lawn. It can also handle small sticks and twigs, but can't quite cut brush like the hog can. The hog, while it leaves a decent cut, can really take care of business when things get nasty.

Kevin



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jdemaris

03-16-2008 13:15:57




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 Re: Brush hogs, rear cutters-Who is good in reply to Gun guru, 03-16-2008 07:18:25  
I can tell you one bad experience I had recently. That with a new King Kutter (yellow) 6 foot model from Tractor Supply - as is - with no options. cost around $750. Picked it up for my neighbor that was a dairy farmer his whole life - and also used to own a Deere dealership. He's now retired in Florida, but kept 400 acres here in New York. Camps here in the summer and has a lot of field cutting to do. He asked me to find him a tractor and mower - and I found him a Deere 1020 for $3000 and the new King Cutter three-point mower. Now, both of us have used such mowers for years, but older mowers. Seems the new ones leave out important features unless you pay extra. The new King Cutter MUST have an optional guard - or it throws debris into the rear tractor tires. After two flats last summer from bits of barbed wire, we made a guard for it. Another problem is the top-link float hook-up. The one that came with it is not adequate and broke twice on bumpy ground. We finally made a better one for it. The other feature which it doesn't have - is the slip clutch. The shear-bolt is a big pain. Many of these things I mentioned - are features I used to take for granted since all my older stuff had it. I also suspect that if you had a flat field, with no debris or remnants of old fence wire, you might do okay.

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Jerry/MT

03-16-2008 13:00:35




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 Re: Brush hogs, rear cutters-Who is good in reply to Gun guru, 03-16-2008 07:18:25  
Sveral years ago, (2005)I studied KingKutter and Wood"s to try to determine which had the greater value from my perspective. I wanted a medium duty 6 foot mower with a slip clutch drive line and a 60 hp gear box for mowing tall grass around our ranch. The KingKutter (5 Point model) configured as I specified with front and rear chain guards was $1089 and weighed in at 750 lbs. its a convential welded design. The Wood"s Brush Bulll model configured the same way was right at~ $2100. It used a hydra-formed steel deck and weighed in at 725 lbs. Personally I did not see the value in the Wood"s that made it ~$1000 higher in price. There are those that will disagree with me.
I will add that the KingKutter 5 Point model is not the run of the mill, farm store, yellow KingKutter. It"s painted a brown color and is generally a heavier model.
The mower does everything I want it to do and I am happy with my purchase.

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gun guru

03-16-2008 13:47:42




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 Re: Brush hogs, rear cutters-Who is good in reply to Jerry/MT, 03-16-2008 13:00:35  
When you say 5 point model, does that mean the 3 point from the tractor and 2 tires in the back? I plan on using this to cut grass, mulch leaves that are ankle deep in the fall and cut small saplings/tall weeds. In fact I may just get a finish mower (rear 3 point) But I would like to see whats out there and the cost. I dont have a big field to cut, just 1/2 acre of grass and some weeds. My dealer quoted me a cost of $1,200 + tax/delivery for a midmount mower, but the midmount is a PITA to hook up, a friend of mine has a Kubota with mid-mount mower. He told me he wishes he would have bought a zeroturn for what the midmount on the Kubota cost him ($1,800)

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Jerry/MT

03-17-2008 10:31:59




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 Re: Brush hogs, rear cutters-Who is good in reply to gun guru, 03-16-2008 13:47:42  
No the 5 Point is what they call the model. Mine uses a three point itch and has a tail wheel. I think the 5 Point is a higher quality version of their standard $400-500 farmstore mowers. Heavier deck, beter fit and finish, etc.



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the tractor vet

03-16-2008 08:33:45




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 Re: Brush hogs, rear cutters-Who is good in reply to Gun guru, 03-16-2008 07:18:25  
Myself i like the IMC line ( Intrenational Machinery Corp.)As for the howes line many years ago my good friend took on that line and ordered in three semi loads of cutter and other stuff he and i and his son spent the whole day with two loader tractors unloading the loads and when we were done we started looking at them closely and every weld had huge slag hole in the welds . Don was not a happy camper and called Howes and the fight was on . End up that i had to grind out the welds and reweld every one and Don and Mikey had to repaint all of the stuff They since have reprograhmed there Robot welders to weld a bit better But in all the I M C stuff i have sold had less problems and there were made a WEEEEeeee bit heavier . The last I M C that i sold was a 10 footer to a good friend and he still tells me how good it is.

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bob18

03-16-2008 07:23:15




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 Re: Brush hogs, rear cutters-Who is good in reply to Gun guru, 03-16-2008 07:18:25  
Where are you located? are you using it to cut trash or mow your lawn?



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Gun guru

03-16-2008 10:35:11




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 Re: Brush hogs, rear cutters-Who is good in reply to bob18, 03-16-2008 07:23:15  
I am in Michigan, Near Flint. I will be using it for both, the quality of the cut on grass will not be good but I have a lot heavy weeds and saplings that I would like to cut down as well.



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Mike M

03-16-2008 13:55:03




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 Re: Brush hogs, rear cutters-Who is good in reply to Gun guru, 03-16-2008 10:35:11  
Check into a good heavy old flail mower like a Ford. Mow grass like a lawn and will cut tall stuff too and also rose bushes and small saplings. And best of all when you hit something it won't send it flying up at you.



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bob18

03-16-2008 07:22:34




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 Re: Brush hogs, rear cutters-Who is good in reply to Gun guru, 03-16-2008 07:18:25  
Where are you located? are you using it to cut trash or mow your lawn?



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