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Building Pipe Fence

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Wayne in Tx

03-28-2007 12:24:34




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I am building a fernce that uses 2 3/8 pipe for the corners, stretchers and gates. I am interested in any tips that you may have on, cutting saddless, angles and welding. I have alot of fence to build and because it follows a creek alot of corners and angles to cut and weld. Any advice is appreciated!! TIA
Wayne




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Wayne in Tx

03-29-2007 14:26:54




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 Re: Building Pipe Fence in reply to Wayne in Tx, 03-28-2007 12:24:34  
Thanks for all of the advice. I purchased some jigs for 45% 22 1/2% and 90% and coped saddle (about $20.00). I starting cutting the saddles with a Plasma torch, then discovered that if I used the chop saw I could cut perfect saddles for the cross pieces. I am using .180 2 3/8 new pipe ($1.29 a foot ouch) which is pretty thick wall and welds good. So far I have installed about 14 corners/stretchers and gates posts and have a least that many to go (my welding is improving). Again thanks for the advice, lot of work but fun seeing it come together.

Wayne

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135 Fan

03-31-2007 22:07:27




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 Re: Building Pipe Fence in reply to Wayne in Tx, 03-29-2007 14:26:54  
I had it wrong. They are called Pipe Master. Look it up on the web. They will work for any angle of cope. Very slick indeed. Dave



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RJ-AZ

03-29-2007 05:12:04




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 Re: Building Pipe Fence in reply to Wayne in Tx, 03-28-2007 12:24:34  
Find a piece of ABS or PVC pipe that will slip over the pipe you are using and experiment till you get the right fishmouth you want and make your own template that way.



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Greg_Ky

03-28-2007 21:26:42




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 Re: Building Pipe Fence in reply to Wayne in Tx, 03-28-2007 12:24:34  
Here is what you need - they work great.



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135 Fan

03-31-2007 22:03:28




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 Re: Building Pipe Fence in reply to Greg_Ky, 03-28-2007 21:26:42  
For only $259. They would be very slow for doing a big fence project and are usually used in a drill press. Dave



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135 Fan

03-28-2007 19:44:11




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 Re: Building Pipe Fence in reply to Wayne in Tx, 03-28-2007 12:24:34  
I bought some some special pipe coping tools. I can't remember what they are called. Pipe mate maybe. Anyway they come in different sizes for different size pipe and tube. They have a bunch of sliding thin metal rods in a plastic pipe that goes over the pipe you're cutting. You just slide the tubes in and out at the angle and cope you need and they stay tight enough that you just trace around the ends of them. They were a little pricey but work great. I was using them for making full nascar type roll cages for dirt track cars. Dave

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SHeiserman

03-28-2007 18:56:09




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 Re: Building Pipe Fence in reply to Wayne in Tx, 03-28-2007 12:24:34  
Easiest way I know of is to find a sheet metal shop with a programmable plasma that can cut any shape ( straight tees, or 45 laterals) out of flat sheets, then roll the pieces to whatever diameter you need. Usually as easy as telling them what fitting/diameter you want. Trace around the templates they make.

As for the welding, I'd downhill 6010 (DCEP) the whole thing. I salute you for using pipe. Any monkey can use tube, but only a determined monkey can make it work with pipe.

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SH

03-28-2007 19:23:28




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 Re: Building Pipe Fence in reply to SHeiserman, 03-28-2007 18:56:09  
Sorry Wayne, got ahead of myself. 2" sched. 40 may be too small to make a template for. I don't know if they can roll sheet that tight. I'd stick with the porta-band, chop saw, and hole saw. Being that small makes it a pain.

If you're using 2" for posts and the horizontal pieces, a 2 3/8 hole saw will make near perfect 90 deg. fit ups. Need a grinder to clean it up a bit. Hole saw won't work with 45 deg. fits, those take a little more time.

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Tx Jim

03-28-2007 13:39:01




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 Re: Building Pipe Fence in reply to Wayne in Tx, 03-28-2007 12:24:34  
Wayne,there are clamp-on patterns to cut saddles and angles that can be purchased. Just clamp-on pipe at "right place" and lay tip of torch against it and cut. If your buiding in black soil you need to put slip-joints in top rail to compensate for movement of soil. Tx Jim



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ebbsspeed

03-28-2007 13:37:52




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 Re: Building Pipe Fence in reply to Wayne in Tx, 03-28-2007 12:24:34  
Here's a handy calculator that can be used to get you REAL close by making straight cuts.
http://snip.awardspace.com/



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KYfarm

03-28-2007 13:31:57




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 Re: Building Pipe Fence in reply to Wayne in Tx, 03-28-2007 12:24:34  
If you have never hand coped round pipe before then you may want to consider hiring a steel fabricator with experience making handrail to work for you for the day. There are machines that with notch the pipe but they aren't cheap to buy and I do not know if they are available to rent or not. That would be your best bet finding a notcher/coper to rrent.

The place I used to work made pipe handrails all day long and we coped the ends with a porta-band. To do it that way you will need a good clamping system in the field and practice, practice getting them to fit tight for easy welding.

Is the pipe the thin walled gate type or did you get your hands on some mechanical tubing or Schedule 40. If it is thin walled then you may want to consider smashing the ends flat for you connections.

Tons of ways to do it depends on your material thickness, tools at your disposal and your skills as a steel fabricator!

Too bad you don't have square tube.....

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