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broker farmer

10-18-2005 08:52:56

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I need to build a barn. I have good white oak and red oak standing timber and would like to cut my own lumber from these trees. Which lumber is the best? How long do these logs need to dry before being sawed? Would it be best to go ahead and saw the lumber and let it dry? If I used wooden siding which lumber would be the best? Some time ago there was a post about using wooden siding for barns (I think the reply was from the Northeast US) that when left to weather naturally, it made a very attrative siding. Does anyone recall what type lumber he was using?

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Robert in W. Mi.

10-20-2005 16:46:24

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Re: Building a wooden barn in reply to broker farmer, 10-18-2005 08:52:56

If it's kept off the ground, both would work as sideing, but the white oak is better.

My experience has been, unless the timber is easy to get to, anyone that buys it will destroy everything around it getting it out.

You "may" beable to sell the logs for enough to build a metal building, but i'd rather have the oak barn anyday!!!

Around here you can buy good quality standing oak trees "20" or more in diameter) for a hundred bucks each, so you won't get rich selling those logs around here!!

Anyway, i have a sawmill, and i'd rather use my own timber for my own buildings any day... Right now i'm sawing out 2x6's to put up another building...

Here's a pict. of an older white pine that was given to me.

Robert

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Bill in NorthCentral PA

10-18-2005 18:10:18

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Re: Building a wooden barn in reply to broker farmer, 10-18-2005 08:52:56

The other posts bring up some great points, that I was too short sighted (or too happy to be able to offer some knowledge to those who educate me all the time). Have the lumber companies (at least three) bid the timber. White oak has excellent rot resistance as well as being strong. It is hard to nail - green is tough, dry is next to impossible! I used white oak as bridge decking and it has lasted twenty years and still seems very solid.

Good luck,

Bill

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MarkB_MI

10-18-2005 14:55:24

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Re: Building a wooden barn in reply to broker farmer, 10-18-2005 08:52:56

Red oak has notoriously poor rot resistance. White oak isn't great, either, compared to say juniper or cypress.

The white oak would be good for framing. Depending on what part of the country you're in, you might get away with white oak siding.

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John (MO)

10-18-2005 13:59:33

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Re: Building a wooden barn in reply to broker farmer, 10-18-2005 08:52:56

Some very good points brought out here. Oak is going to shrink as it drys, but it will last about for ever. Put it up vertically and use strips big enough to cover a big gap as it drys. Other point is that you may be able to get enough for your timber to put up a metal building. Who knows maybe even have a couple bucks left over. State forester could be a big help if they work the same in your state, but they are not going to buy your timber. So, you will want to get bids just to see where you stand.

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Ranger John

10-18-2005 13:33:20

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Re: Building a wooden barn in reply to broker farmer, 10-18-2005 08:52:56

I think I would get a good book or two and learn from reading and looking at some of the drawings./

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Marshall

10-18-2005 12:49:14

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Re: Building a wooden barn in reply to broker farmer, 10-18-2005 08:52:56

I am in Michigan and I used white pine on mine. I left it rough sawn, but next time I would have the edges planed. I had to do some trimming to get the eges straight so I did not have to big of gaps.

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mike brown

10-18-2005 10:12:25

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Re: Building a wooden barn in reply to broker farmer, 10-18-2005 08:52:56

If you have good standing white and red oak timber you would be CRAZY to use it to build a barn!! That stuff is like gold on the timber market. Before you cut anything have a state forester give you an estimate of what you have and what it is worth. DO NOT have a lumber company give you an estimate unless you want to get screwed. I'll bet you can sell the timber and use the money to build the Taj Mahal of barns.

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old

10-18-2005 09:46:25

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Re: Building a wooden barn in reply to broker farmer, 10-18-2005 08:52:56

In my area white oak was the prefered wood to go with. They would cut it down saw it in to lumber and put it up as fast as they could. The longer it drys the harder it is to nail up. Only problem with putting it up fast is that it strinks some as it drys.

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Bill in NorthCentral PA

10-18-2005 09:07:44

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Re: Building a wooden barn in reply to broker farmer, 10-18-2005 08:52:56

Hemlock board & batten siding is the choice around here. Economical, attractive, and weathers well.

Good luck,

Bill

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