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Brake Caliper Rebuild

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ErnieD

11-06-2004 13:51:06




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Got a Chevie brake caliper to repair. The rubber boot has a small tear, looking to just replace the boot, if that is possible. The rebuild kit did not have instructions, neither did the Haynes repair manual. Any help on caliper rebuid is appreciated.

btw, never again will I buy a Haynes manuel.




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Randy SE-MN.

11-11-2004 13:38:58




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 Re: Brake Caliper Rebuild in reply to ErnieD, 11-06-2004 13:51:06  
I've not done a Venture yet (I am an ASE Master) but if you let sufficient, if any brake fluid leak out, you may set the ABS (Anti-lock Brake System light) on. You may need a professinoal scan tool with ABS software to "rehome" the pistons in the ABS controller...Are you equipped for that possibility? Good Luck! Randy



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Darren in TN

11-08-2004 07:49:01




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 Re: Brake Caliper Rebuild in reply to ErnieD, 11-06-2004 13:51:06  

Ernie,

I repaired a bad piston seal in one of my front calipers in my little Mazda commuter and it wasn"t difficult at all. I don"t know how much of this will translate to the job you"re about to do, but here"s what I had to do:

- Remove tire
- Remove caliper retaining bolts/slides
- Remove brake line and plug as best you can to avoid excessive leakage of fluid
- Pull the whole caliper off
- Use compressed air (I used a 50cc irrigating syringe) to force the piston out of the caliper bore-- apply pressure where the brake line goes into the caliper and be very careful not to drop the piston (do this an inch or so over a nice soft, clean mat
- Clean out the cylinder bore and look for scoring, cracks, scratches, etc.
- Carefully replace the seal and boot and push the piston back into the bore after you wet the seal and the bore with fresh brake fluid
- Once it"s seated, use a c-clamp to carefully drive the piston back to where you need it
- Reinstall pads, caliper, brake line, mounting bolts, etc.
-Bleed lines well-- you may have gotten a good bit of air in there, so be careful

Voila! that oughta do it. You probably oughta find a good manual on your vehicle that tells you if this is the correct procedure for your van or not. In my case, the seal and boot only cost about $5 total and the repair was trivial. It"s still working great with no leaks, even pad wear, and good braking force a year later.

Best of luck,
Darren

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ErnieD

11-06-2004 17:25:41




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 Re: Brake Caliper Rebuild in reply to ErnieD, 11-06-2004 13:51:06  
The caliper is on a Venture Van.

The brakes were ready for new pads and rotors when I had new tires mounted by a garage. Curious thang was after the garage mounted the tires I noticed the caliper boot tore. The garage also promotes brake rebuilds. I have no way of proving they did it, maybe it was a cosmic ray.

So in the 110,867 mi we have had the car, the pads have wore evenly, there is a sealed oil reservoir boot that lubes the caliper locking bolts.

I have had the brake fluid flushed pre-emptively at 80k miles, as well as some of the lines replaced as there were pretty rusty.

I was looking to substitute the seal on the van without having to break the hydraulic seal or bleed the brakes.

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MAC,IL

11-06-2004 16:47:52




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 Re: Brake Caliper Rebuild in reply to ErnieD, 11-06-2004 13:51:06  
Ernie: I dont know the age of the veh of which you speak, however, just buy a rebuilt one and forget about it. I might also suggest you replace both of them while your are at it. Also its a good idea to replace the rubber hose at this time as they get old and peel from the inside. Better now than at a later date. Get some disc brake grease and lube all contact points of the caliper as you install. Seems permatex brand lube is about 7 bucks for all you will need.

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Leland

11-06-2004 15:48:49




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 Re: Brake Caliper Rebuild in reply to ErnieD, 11-06-2004 13:51:06  
Just go to parts store and get rebuild unit cheeper in long run and it has a warranty.



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john in la

11-06-2004 14:59:56




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 Re: Brake Caliper Rebuild in reply to ErnieD, 11-06-2004 13:51:06  
First off I will probably get told something because some think you should never rebuild brake parts and should replace every time with new. I do not rebuild them any more myself as the price on new parts has come down and I did not even know you could buy rebuild kits any more. Its a big liability issue to the maker of the parts. That is why the book you have does not tell you how to do it. But if you have the parts and want to do it I will tell you how.

You may be able to replace just the boot but if it is bad you just as soon do the whole job. The o-ring is just as old.

You MUST have compressed air and a good C clamp. If you do not; stop here cause you can not do it.

Take the caliber off the truck. Put a block of wood where the rotor and pads would be to prevent the piston from flying out and shoot air into the hole where the brake line goes to push out on the piston. Adjust the size of the wood smaller and smaller till the piston come out. Once you see the o-ring on the piston you can usually pull it out by hand.
When you get the piston out you will see it has a boot at the top and a o-ring about half way down. Replace both with new parts. Check to see if the caliber hole has any pitting and sand the glaze off with fine sandpaper. Clean it up and coat ever thing with brake fluid. Now reinstall the piston using the c-clamp and a piece of wood so you can apply equal pressure to the entire piston and push it straight in. Watch that the o-ring does not roll as you start it. Push it all the way to the bottom of hole. Reinstall on truck; bleed brakes and you are done.

Note... If you ever have a caliber that is binding and will not release the brakes on its own. It needs to be replaced as it is not rebuild able.

Now remember the book does not tell you how to do it for a reason. I am not there to make sure you do it correctly so you are on your own now.

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Pappy

11-06-2004 13:56:37




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 Re: Brake Caliper Rebuild in reply to ErnieD, 11-06-2004 13:51:06  
I don't know about Chevrolet prices, but replacement calipers for my E150 Ford were only $9.97 each, exchange. Couldn't believe it. Have you considered exchanging them---Might be cheaper and easier. Hope it works out.



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Jon H

11-07-2004 12:41:34




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 Re: Brake Caliper Rebuild in reply to Pappy, 11-06-2004 13:56:37  
I hear you Pappy, I rebuilt the warping/sticking front calipers twice on my Dodge within 2 years. Rebuild kits were $10 each time and I did it twice with only short lived relief. I decided that I would be forced to spend the big bucks to replace those warping calipers. Checked the parts store and rebuilt calipers were $15 :-( and have been trouble free for 5 years.The rebuilt calipers had a different casting number,so I suspect they were a newer design that fixed the warping problem.

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Big Jim

11-08-2004 01:25:07




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 Re: Brake Caliper Rebuild in reply to Jon H, 11-07-2004 12:41:34  
I've futzed with rebuilding calipers a couple of times in the past and it just isn't worth it. Most brake jobs anymore I just buy a set of "loaded" calipers and slap them on. The loaded ones with pads already installed are always cheaper than calipers and pads separately. I generally still do my own wheel cylinders, tho.



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