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Brake bleeders

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Slowpoke

03-01-2004 02:03:22




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When bleeding brakes with a pressure tank and a master cylinder adapter, does the pressure in the mc reservoir eventually equal the incoming fluid pressure to stop the flow of brake fluid from the tank? This would mean compressing the air trapped in the reservoir. If it doesn't work that way, how does it work?
The old tanks had a bladder to keep air out of the fluid. Does anyone have experience with the new small plastic tanks, and do they have a bladder also?

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Harrison

03-02-2004 19:55:53




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 Re: Brake bleeders in reply to Slowpoke, 03-01-2004 02:03:22  
I still use the coke bottles and vacuum line method my grand daddy used 60 years ago. Still the best and most fool proof way I have found for one person.Good luck with them pressure bleeders I could never keep up with all them parts and pieces.



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Slowpoke

03-02-2004 21:47:40




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 Re: Re: Brake bleeders in reply to Harrison, 03-02-2004 19:55:53  
I use the vacuum method but have a lot of trouble with air being pulled in around the bleeder screw, even using special grease on the it. I think it's due to the proportioning valve.
What is the Coke bottle method that you use?



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Matt Clark

03-08-2004 08:11:34




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 Re: Re: Re: Brake bleeders in reply to Slowpoke, 03-02-2004 21:47:40  
Slowpoke:

I use the bottle too. Get a plastic bottle and wrap a wire around the neck (use the wire to hang the bottle near the bleeder somewhere). Get a few pieces of rubber hose in different sizes, to fit (TIGHTLY!) over the bleeder. Crack the bleeder and then slip the hose on it. The other end hangs down into the bottle - but you need to have the end submerged at all times in brake fluid. This stops air from going back into the system. With the end submerged, pump the brake peddle slowly, all the way down several times.

A helper can holler when there's no more bubbles coming out, or, if you use clear hoses, you can see when there aren't anymore in the line. Start at bleeder farthest from master cylinder and work your way closer. Works great, and, if you use a clean dry bottle (and the fluid is coming out clean!) you can use it to top off the master cylinder - but I usually just toss it out

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Slowpoke

03-08-2004 19:52:10




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Brake bleeders in reply to Matt Clark, 03-08-2004 08:11:34  
Matt, I don't have any help most of the time. I did ABS brakes once, and the pedal was always soft. I thought I was not getting the air out, so once the dirty stuff was removed, I used clear hose that reached from the rear cylinders to the master cylinder. I keep the hose hanging on the side of the vehicle above the wheel cylinder level. The fluid dumps back into the master cylinder, so it never runs dry, and I can see any bubbles from the driver's seat. As long as the hose is higher than the wheel cylinder the bubbles rise and can't be sucked back. I never did get the pedal hard, but a mechanic tested it and said it was supposed to be that way. Otherwise I use the vacuum method, but I'd like to try pressure at the master cylinder.

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