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Brad nailer or finish nailer

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Bill in TN

08-26-2003 11:04:37




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The wife decided she needs new molding on top of the kitchen cabinets. Would a finish nailer or a brad nailer work best?




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Molder Maker

08-27-2003 14:07:59




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 Re: Brad nailer or finish nailer in reply to Bill in TN, 08-26-2003 11:04:37  
Besides manufacturing molding and making fireplace mantels, etc., I find that my Bostich Brad Nailer works well. I've used it on my red oak with no splits - but occasionaly, the brad will follow the grain and bends such that it doesn't go were you want. It does well when using it to pin a project together after glue-up.



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Indydirtfarmer

08-27-2003 08:47:28




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 Re: Brad nailer or finish nailer in reply to Bill in TN, 08-26-2003 11:04:37  
I've spent 28 years doing trim carpenter work. I have done some very nice homes, offices, and a couple "high end" country clubs. I started using finish nailers in the late 70's. They are labor savers, as well as just flat being easier than hand nailing. I have Senco, Spot-nail, Bostich, and Portercable guns. I personally like the Spot-nail guns. they are a commercial grade tool. You won't find them at discount lumber yards. I have several "nail guns" and several brad nailers. I tend to let the brad guns set, unless I'm doing something that just can't be done with the nailers. The SLIGHTLEY larger "nail" is very workable in MOST situations. The brad guns come up a little short in some instances. If you are only going to have one, make it a 15 or 16 gauge nailer. A good solution is to rent your nailer and brad gun, on the first try. Then you can make a better determination as to what serves you the best. Just a word of advice from someone that has shot several truckloads of nails over the years. Pay attention to the air pressure going to the guns. The'll last MUCH longer if you operate at the low end of the acceptable pressure scale. I have finish nailers, brad nailers, staplers, roof nailers, framing nailers, and flooring nailers. I NEVER use them at over 90 psi. Use an in-line oiler, and a water trap. And just my opinion, stay away from the "cordless" gas fired guns. They are as handy as a shirt pocket, but fragile as an eggshell.

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old retired man

08-26-2003 19:54:15




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 Re: Brad nailer or finish nailer in reply to Bill in TN, 08-26-2003 11:04:37  
I would go with Ryan reply 100% and when you look at the price Senco brand should be priced with most the other name brands and brads are easly found.



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Ryan

08-26-2003 18:19:07




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 Re: Brad nailer or finish nailer in reply to Bill in TN, 08-26-2003 11:04:37  
Bill,
I have worked in Construction since I was 12 and currently I teach Technology Ed at a high school so I have a bit of knowledge on this subject. If all you are planning on installing is crown molding I would go with an 18 guage nailer. A lot of people have mentioned the 2 1/2" capacity of a 16 guage but you really will not need that much length. Most 18 guage nailers offer a 1 9/16" length nail and that shoudl be adequate. The general rule that I follow is that 16 guage is usually limited to things like installing door jambs but all trim is usually installed with a 18 guage. 18 will give you plenty of holding power and the nail heads will be easier to hide. However, if you are going to end up nailing into some thick plaster you may have to go for a 16 gauge nail.

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Sometimes Wrong But Never

08-26-2003 15:55:18




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 Re: Brad nailer or finish nailer in reply to Bill in TN, 08-26-2003 11:04:37  
Hope this does not seem unpatriotic, but I bought the Chinese brad nailers from Harbor Freight. Bought one each of the 18 gauge and the 16 gauge. The 16 gauge will shoot up to 2 1/2". They have done well. Check the known brand names. Most likely they will be better and offer more features- check where they are made! Probably overseas. My only occasional use makes big investment just not practical. Both of mine were bought for less than $100.00.

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Van(WA)

08-26-2003 12:14:10




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 Re: Brad nailer or finish nailer in reply to Bill in TN, 08-26-2003 11:04:37  
Bill; Agree with DR Evil, Get a brad gun, that will shoot 2" brads(you need that length around door ways and ect. With a power mitre box, power brad gun, you can do excellant work! Finish the wood before putting it up.



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Dr.EVIL

08-26-2003 11:40:45




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 Re: Brad nailer or finish nailer in reply to Bill in TN, 08-26-2003 11:04:37  
I have both and the brad nailer works best for hardwood molding, doesn't split it as bad and the clipped heads are easier to hide. I'd suggest an 18 gauge that can use 2 inch long nails. Finish nailer would use a 15 or 16 gauge nail up to 2-1/2 inch long. Seems to work best if You stain & finish before installing, and a good power miter saw helps speed things up incredibly.



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Bill in TN

08-26-2003 12:55:06




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 Re: Re: Brad nailer or finish nailer in reply to Dr.EVIL, 08-26-2003 11:40:45  
Ok, been looking at lowes.com at their brad nailers. Any recommendations on what brand, and features I need would be appreciated. I am especially interested in what to stay away from. Got the molding cut, primered and the first coat of paint sprayed. I'm planning on doing a fair amount of work on the house in the future, crown molding, chair rails window and door molding etc. Thanks for the replies!

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Mike

09-04-2003 12:53:18




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 Re: Re: Re: Brad nailer or finish nailer in reply to Bill in TN, 08-26-2003 12:55:06  
I use a Bostich brad nailer, using both short and long brads depending on the molding thickness and what's behind it (ie. direct wood on wood, or a layer of drywall in between). I've used to apply baseboard, casing, plinth blocks, rosettes, chair rail, etc.



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Ben

08-26-2003 14:41:16




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 Re: Re: Re: Brad nailer or finish nailer in reply to Bill in TN, 08-26-2003 12:55:06  
Bill: I would look at stanley bostitch BT200K-2 brad nailer. Ita a great tool , i've used it before and the best thing i think about it, that its OIL LESS, so theres no oil resude on you work when you go to stain the wood. comes in a case with extra brads, and very light weight. click on there web site to see more about the gun.
Good luck.



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