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Building to Store Round Bales

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Terry in KY

08-13-2003 11:55:46




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We are looking to build something this fall to store our round bales in. We've been storing them all outside and we're tired of all the waste.

We have three choices so far:

1. A hoop barn by Quick cover. This is the cheapest and they look easy to put together. It is basically steel truss arches with a heavy tarp stretched over top. The tarp has a 15 year warranty, but it's pro-rated. I wonder how long they really last?

2. A wooden pole barn covered in metal. This is a little higher and would require lots more labor. The roofing would have a 20 year warranty. There is a wooden truss factory 3 miles away, so we would use them and have an open span. It would be easy to add additions in the future.

3. Steel truss barn. This is a little higher, but not as bad as I thought it would be if we build it ourselves. It has a 50 year warranty on trusses and 30 year on roofing. This one looks the strongest and you can buy additions that bolt on. Everything goes together with bolts and screws, so I think labor would be less than wood.

All opinions appreciated.

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Adam B.

08-18-2003 08:14:17




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 Re: Building to Store Round Bales in reply to Terry in KY, 08-13-2003 11:55:46  
We put a large, all-steel hay building up about fifteen years ago. Thirteen years ago, we switched from round bales to large square (3x3x7 bale) and the building works just as well for those. A quonset hut or bowed tarp shelter would work for you, but you'll have more wasted space if you try to use it for something else later on.



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Terry in KY

08-14-2003 06:55:03




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 Re: Building to Store Round Bales in reply to Terry in KY, 08-13-2003 11:55:46  
Here are the rough do-it-myself prices:

Quick Cover: $2.43 /ft^2
Wood Pole Barn: $2.66 /ft^2
Steel Truss: $3.63 /ft^2

The wood is the best buy material wise, but as I said stick building requires a lot more labor. We have thought about building a smaller steel truss building for now to meet our budget and then adding on in the future. You can add up to a 12 ft. shed on the sides that is just a bolt on overhang with no posts. That looks pretty neat.

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Trevor

08-14-2003 06:35:48




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 Re: Building to Store Round Bales in reply to Terry in KY, 08-13-2003 11:55:46  
To each there own. I would think that if it is strickly going to be used for hay storage than the Quick Cover thing would be the way to go.

You can always do the Cadillac install and have poored footings that can be used for a metal frame building in the future if you want. There are quite a few of those things in this area (southern Ontario Canada) and I haven't heard and horror stories about lost tarps and so on.

I guess the true answer is that you should evaluate what you are going to use it for. If you want machinery storage as well as hay than I would lean towards the builings, but if it is strickly Hay than Quick cover for my vote.

Just another opinion

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CTR

08-13-2003 21:00:27




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 Re: Building to Store Round Bales in reply to Terry in KY, 08-13-2003 11:55:46  
I am considering the same thing. I would like to see some cost per square foot also. One drawback the hoop barn or quick cover is the guttering however, the steel arch has guttering in its footing. I like the clear span in both.



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mgocom

08-13-2003 17:53:53




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 Re: Building to Store Round Bales in reply to Terry in KY, 08-13-2003 11:55:46  
There are about 4 of those Quick cover builbings here in Nothern Ill. A dairy farmer has on for his cows, and the others are used by horse farmers. They all like them. A highway commissioner here is going to get one for salt storage for the winter. One thing nice is if you move, you can take it with you. You can also set them on anything you want to use for walls, or no walls.
My 2cnts.
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buck

08-13-2003 15:33:22




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 Re: Building to Store Round Bales in reply to Terry in KY, 08-13-2003 11:55:46  

Near me there is one of those steel arch buildings that looks like half of a steel culvert pipe except this thing is probably 150x60. Both ends are open and they stack 5x6 bales 4 high so as the stack tapers up it follows the curve of the structure. Appears as though they feed out different ends every other year to keep rotating the hay so older hay doesn't wind up remaining in the center. Don't know what they call it bet it sure looks like the cats meow for large round bale storage.

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paul

08-14-2003 08:06:15




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 Re: Re: Building to Store Round Bales in reply to buck, 08-13-2003 15:33:22  
These are nearly as cheap as a fabric one, lots of labor to bolt together. There is no 'frame' just deep corrigation of the steel skin. This would be a good compromise between the steel & fabric - lasts longer, cheaper to build.

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KS

08-13-2003 14:26:26




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 Re: Building to Store Round Bales in reply to Terry in KY, 08-13-2003 11:55:46  
I find the bolt together buildings far superior to any other. Pole barns are ok, but you do have wooden poles in contact with the ground. I realize that they are treated but the treated wood does not last forever. With a bolt together building, the iron is bolted to a concrete foundation. There is no wood/ground contact=no rot. Also, like you mentioned, the all steel building bolts together...much stronger than nails or even screws.(I guess you do have to use some screws to mount the tin to the frame...better than nails) The cost is higher but you will have a building that will last indefinitely. I don't know much about the tarp buildings. I guess they might be alright if the price is right....Don't know if I would like my roof flapping in the wind though! Just my ramblings....good luck!

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Mike

08-13-2003 14:26:00




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 Re: Building to Store Round Bales in reply to Terry in KY, 08-13-2003 11:55:46  
I would go with either the pole barn or the steel truss barn. In either case I would add some extra reinforcement 6-8 feet up on the sides. We had some bales shift and buckled the side out on our morton building. After we emptied it out this spring,we went around the inside with 2x10 sawmill lumber at 2-4-6 ft heights. We stack our bales on end,(5x5's) 2 high on the sides and 3 high towards the center with a 4455 with a loader and bale hugger.

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