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My Limiter Chains, field combat results

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ScottM

08-17-2004 09:36:46




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The below URL shows the limiter chains I made up.
It is all 5/16" chain. The bottom connector has a screw bolt that the chain connect to, but I saw no way of securing it. I used the wire from one of those little white flag markers and bent it thru a hole in the screw and around to prevent any chance of the screw getting unloosened.
At the top, I have a fair amount of extra chain. Currently the 2 ends are tied together under the seat by another piece of wire.
I started by having the mower raised up a good 6 inches. Once I lower it and get a feel for the chain length, I likely will cut it down to a proper length.

Ground Wasps: 1 Me: 1
They struck first during the weekend as I mowed. They had their laugh. Now was my turn. After scouting for the nest entrance (in my car, making faces at them) I planned a dawn strike. I approached their nest, moving the car near where I would stand. I saw 2 entrances (maybe more; the ground is heavy clay and at lease 1 entrance was in the clay crack). I struck first with a can of Raid, saturating the area. After emptying the can with no retaliation I hit it with a foaming wasp killer. I watched for a bit (had seen a couple lurking near the surface, but no movement muhahah!) and then retired to my victory coffee. Afternoon scouting: Went back (in car, again :)) and no movement from the 'dead zone'. But there were those buggers, flying in the air trying to kill my car! arggh....I do not know if there was another entrance further away or another nest.... The grass is cut to 6" so a bit hard to see the ground. I dunno...maybe I will need to find an enclosed tractor....

-ScottM

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OH Boy

08-18-2004 06:12:29




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 Re: My Limiter Chains, field combat results in reply to ScottM, 08-17-2004 09:36:46  
Not to be critical but are you aware that your tractor appears to be a 9N or a 2N not an 8N?

I like your idea for the limiter chains.

Cant help you with the bees, I hate those things too.



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ScottM

08-18-2004 06:38:57




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 Re: My Limiter Chains, field combat results in reply to OH Boy, 08-18-2004 06:12:29  
Sadly yup. An earlier thread to find the toggle for position mode yielded that result, hence the limiter chain :( I do not know how to tell if the chassis is 2 or 9 though. -Scott



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OH Boy

08-18-2004 07:23:23




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 Re: My Limiter Chains, field combat results in reply to ScottM, 08-18-2004 06:38:57  
By the serial number and you could also check on various castings such as the rear axle trumpets for dates. My 2N left axle trumpet has a May 47 date cast into it so I can be pretty certain it was a 2N, at least that part of the tractor was!

I think my tractor had its front end rebuilt, when I bought it I recall seeing something was bent that I thought was odd and the guy said his dad had hit a tree one time years ago. I said Oh and just shrugged my shoulders. Not a big deal, right?

When I started looking at this site frequently I discovered the I-beam radius rods which are on my 47 2N were actually only used on earlier 9N models. My engine serial number meshes with a 47 2N however so I am pretty confident that is what most of the tractor is. I believe my front axles, radius arms, steering links, etc came from a 9N donor however.

It all drives the same, and it really doesnt make any difference to me if its a 9N or a 2N. They are so similar, that as long as everything works properly I don"t think whether its a 9N or a 2N affects value in any way.

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ScottM

08-18-2004 07:40:55




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 Re: My Limiter Chains, field combat results in reply to OH Boy, 08-18-2004 07:23:23  
I took a look on the rear axils but saw nothing (maybe overpainted). The only numeric thing I see, and do not know if it helps, is the list of patents right by the steering wheel. Are there a set which are key to the 9N or 2N?

-Scott



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OH Boy

08-18-2004 09:57:28




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 Re: My Limiter Chains, field combat results in reply to ScottM, 08-18-2004 07:40:55  
If you really want to research what you have the best place to go is John Smith"s site:

Link

This page covers all the inocuous little changes that were made year by year and you should be able ot figure out what you have there.

Let us all know when you figure it out!



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Rob

08-17-2004 11:28:14




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 Re: My Limiter Chains, field combat results in reply to ScottM, 08-17-2004 09:36:46  
I would lower the chains to just where that black strap iron connects to the hog. I can lower the hog so it just clears the ground. Less than an inch and I don't get any dragging at but on the most broken terrain. Generally man-made broken like going in and out of bar ditches.
I put snap hooks on the tag ends so I can snap them back on themselves and assure the chain won't jump out of the keyhole when the hog bounces or I lift it some.

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Ron from IL

08-17-2004 10:21:06




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 Re: My Limiter Chains, field combat results in reply to ScottM, 08-17-2004 09:36:46  
Scott,

That's some BEEFY limiter chains on that pup, Bubba! Is the mower the only thing that you'll have to use them on? I drilled out the lynch pin holder rivets on the arms and installed tabs made of strap steel to use as the lower anchor point for my chains. That way, I don't have to rely on the implement having enough 'pin room' to accomodate the clevis (or plate).

Yeah, those bees are a pain! I encountered them when we first moved to our place twelve years ago. I, like you, waited until dark and snuck up on the hole. I poured in about a quart of gasoline, and covered it with a piece of 2 X 12. The next day, they were all gone.

Ron

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MarkB 2N MS

08-17-2004 22:45:20




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 Limiter Chains attached to lower links vs. impleme in reply to Ron from IL, 08-17-2004 10:21:06  
I agree with Rob. If you attach the chains to the lower links you don"t have to fool with the chains when you change from one implement to another.



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ScottM

08-17-2004 10:31:37




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 Re: My Limiter Chains, field combat results in reply to Ron from IL, 08-17-2004 10:21:06  
Yeah, chain was cheap enough and I knew the terrain was rough so I went beefy.

As far as the damn wasps, the big problem is I don't know where these new ones are coming from. This will be a pain in the ass...

-Scott



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Eric ATL

08-17-2004 12:28:04




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 crazy idea in reply to ScottM, 08-17-2004 10:31:37  
Does anyone in your area keep bees? Se if you can borrow a bee suit. That way you can search at your leisure close up to find the nest. Are they yellow jackets or what kind of wasps are they? The only regular wasps I've heard of living in the ground are the HUGE ones. I remember seeing on TV that in FL (I think)there was a guy who would come out and vacuum the pests out of the nest and freeze them. Then you can poison the nest. He sells the frozen pests to a lab that uses the venom to produce anti-venoms for medical use. Since he sells the pests he doesn't charge for the service. Long shot but you might see if anyone around your area does this sort of thing. Just throwin it out there. Eric

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ScottM

08-18-2004 04:05:18




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 Re: crazy idea in reply to Eric ATL, 08-17-2004 12:28:04  
Actually, I think the ones I saw were refugees. I went back out late last night when it got cooler, mid weight jacket on to prevent stings at least on the upper area. Threw it into 2nd and went bounding over the unmoved area (the nest entrace was in the last mower path I made). Not a single challenge. Got a good 6 rows mowed before it was getting too dark, so I am hoping I got em. I plan to go out this morning and spray down the hole again, just to be sure. With luck, victory is mine!!!!

The wird thing is, and maybe I just don't know my evil insects, these looked like bees. I mean, I am pretty sure they were a bit furry, not sleek killer machines. I tried to take a picture with a digital camera, but they move too fast and are so small, blowups look like a bigfoot photo...

-Scott

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