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David Humphreys

07-27-2003 06:27:58




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I had a local farmer rebuild my 8n and convert it to 12v. The only way to get it started is to pull it with my truck. When you try to start with button it cranks and cranks and the batttery starts to boil. I "assume" i have a direct short somewhere, in laymens terms can anyone tell me where to start to solve this. Thanks in advance, David




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Rob

07-27-2003 10:08:52




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 Re: 12v conversion problems in reply to David Humphreys, 07-27-2003 06:27:58  
Lotta rebuilds need help getting started because of low compression because the valves and rings aren't seated well. The compression is just crap actually. That will change in several hour of run time.
Squirt some oil in each cylinder and try starting it. About a tablespoon or 5 good squirts out the can. Maybe 8. 8 might be a lot but I don't think it will hurt anything. That will bring up the compression so to start a lot easier.

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Dell (WA)

07-27-2003 07:30:05




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 Re: 12v conversion problems in reply to David Humphreys, 07-27-2003 06:27:58  
David..... ....a properly done 12 volt conversion, will start your engine in less than 5 seconds at 20 below because 12 volts onnna 6 volt starter motor really spinns. You should get the same performance in July, less than 5 seconds of crankin'.

Many 12 volt conversions are done because of HARD STARTING caused by "low engine compression" (Ford spec: 90 psi dry) and the added speed of starter turn-over kinda makes up for low compression. (a bandaid approach) Pull starting your tractor does the same thing, speeds up the engine turn-over.

If'n yer been crankin' on your starter motor for more than 1 minute constant, then most likely ya melted the starter gutts and that can cause internal shorts and battery boiling.

You asked for suggestions. Do a dreaded compression test. Ford specs: 90 psi min (dry) 5 puffs min and writer down, then 1 squirt of oil down the sparkie hole to evaluate the rings, 5 puffs min and writer down. Good engine will test 100+ dry and 110+ wet. Tired engine will increase +20 psi, wornout engine +30 psi wet. (time to think about engine overhaul)

Pull your starter motor for evaluation of comutator solder condition..... ...Dell, a 12 volt advocate for the right reasons

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jdchet

07-27-2003 07:49:12




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 Re: Re: 12v conversion problems in reply to Dell (WA), 07-27-2003 07:30:05  
Geez..... ..mine starts in less than 5 seconds on 6 volts! Did I break something?
LOL!



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Mike

07-27-2003 12:52:31




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 Re: Re: Re: 12v conversion problems in reply to jdchet, 07-27-2003 07:49:12  
I know what you mean, if my 6 volt powered 8N cranked for 5 seconds without starting I'd think something was wrong.

Mike



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