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4020 Block/circulation water heater

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Roger Reinholdt

03-16-2008 15:24:43




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I have a Deere water heater (AR42326) mounted on the right side of my 4020 tractor block. It has worked fine for years. The lower hose on the heater routes around the front of the tractor to the left side of the block, and connects to the block where the coolant drain valve is. The top hose of the heater connect to the block on the right side middle/top. This year the hose that goes into the block on the right side gets hotter than #$%^, but the heat does not seem to be circulating through the block. I have flushed the entire system, check all the hoses for blockage. My question is, does the heater also have a circulation pump that may have gone bad?
If it has a pump and it has gone bad is it servicable, Or does anyone have a good aftermarket heater/pump they recommend. Deere wants $120 for a new one.

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Bob

03-16-2008 15:47:51




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 Re: 4020 Block/circulation water heater in reply to Roger Reinholdt, 03-16-2008 15:24:43  
There's NO "pump" in the heater, just a check valve at the bottom.

Heated coolant rises, drawing cold coolant into the bottom of the heater.

Take the heater apart, and take a look at the port and check valve at the bottom.

Not too long ago, a customer's heater wasn't working, and when I took it apart, it was completly plugged at the bottom with antifreeze slime and corroded aluminum.

If the check valve or housing is bad, you can get a new housing, # AR42991, from DEERE, for about $95.00.

Also, are you SURE the fitting at the block drain port is "open"? It's pretty small, and easy for crap to clog or partially clog.

An aftermaket heater, such as a Phillips-Temro will work fine, as well, for less $$.

How cold does it get where you are, and how do you use the heater... do you need quick heat to start the tractor within an hour or two of being plugged in, or do you routinely plug it in the night before? The DEERE heater is (I think) 1500 Watts.

I live in northern ND, where it gest COLD, and keep the tractor in an unheated polebarn, usually plugging it in the night before I intend to use it. I have an 850 Watt aftermarket heater, and it has always been adequate for this scenario, even at -25ºF.

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Roger Reinholdt

03-16-2008 16:33:41




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 Re: 4020 Block/circulation water heater in reply to Bob, 03-16-2008 15:47:51  
Thanks for the info, I will disasemble and look at the check the valve. I live in Missouri, and 30-45 minutes on this 1500W heater (when it was working) and it's like starting it in the summer. I normally put it on a timer in the winter if I know I'm going to need it early in the morning.



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Lee B

03-17-2008 06:28:57




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 Re: 4020 Block/circulation water heater in reply to Roger Reinholdt, 03-16-2008 16:33:41  
A possibly better heater to use would be a "freeze plug" type of heater if you need to purchase a new one. It replaces one of the so called freeze plugs in the side of the block and hot water circulates internally inside the engine which gets completely around your current problem.

In my opinion they are simply the better moustrap.



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Bob

03-17-2008 12:23:37




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 Re: 4020 Block/circulation water heater in reply to Lee B, 03-17-2008 06:28:57  
First, there has to be a place to PUT a such a heater. Unfortunately, there's no place for one in a 4020 block!



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Lee B

03-17-2008 19:53:16




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 Re: 4020 Block/circulation water heater in reply to Bob, 03-17-2008 12:23:37  
Having never seen a 4020, I wouldn't know about such things, but that still wouldn't stop me. They make some pretty good hole saws these days you know. Thanks for the info.



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