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4020 24volt

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Toby

01-18-2004 11:30:52




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I am a little lost on how this deal works. It appears to be a 24 volt with postive gound but why do both postive and negative go all the way to the starter. What do you use for aux lights ect. I am afraid to touch the wiring(which needs a lot of work) until I get a little better handle on the bad boy.

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Dale in IN

01-19-2004 05:25:29




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 Re: 4020 24volt in reply to Toby, 01-18-2004 11:30:52  
Toby:
Go to the top of this page and type in 24volt. you will pull up about 34 articles on this system.Read Dave Wickman's article on the 24 volt system. He does a very good job of explaining it. Also john T has an article 0n here that explains it also but I did not come up with it. I ran into this with my 4020 several years ago and switched over to an alternator and a 12 V starter.If you decide to go to the 12 Volt starter get a rebuilt starter off of a 4320. They are about 4" longer than the 4020 starter and will bolt right up. They will really make that 404 engine spin. Also moved my batteries out on a bracket on the side of the frame right beside the starter and use 2 heavy duty 6 Vs hooked in series.

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S. Conner

01-18-2004 22:01:03




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 Re: 4020 24volt in reply to Toby, 01-18-2004 11:30:52  
I've got a '66 4020 that I've completely rewired. All together, it was close to five hundred dollars for all the wiring. The circuit breakers that mount on the starter came in this kit and they weren't on it before. I've spent several hours looking over the electrical diagrams and then going out to look at the tractor and I'm still lost when it comes to figuring out this 24 volt system. Somehow, it works. On mine, the positive on one battery is connected to the negative on the other. I think the earlier ones were grounded straight to the transmission housing.

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Bob

01-18-2004 12:51:54




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 Re: 4020 24volt in reply to Toby, 01-18-2004 11:30:52  
The batteries are in series. It's just a bit unusual because the tractor frame is smack-dab in the middle of the 24 Volt circuit, so 1/2 of the lights and accessories operate off of (-) 12 Volts and the other half operate of of (+) 12 Volts, while the generator and starter work with 24 Volts.

The system is not hard to work with, if you have a manual with a wiring diagram, and are open-minded to the unusual system when you study the diagram.

The battery cable on the starter solenoid should be from the (-) battery post, and the cable on the side of the starter belly next to the engine should be from the (+) battery post. The opposite connection from each battery is connected to the tractor frame.

There are two heavy-duty circuit breakers on a metal plate mounted next to the starter solenoid. The source for the (+) 12 Volts and (-) 12 Volts for the instrument panel, key switch, and lighting circuits are through these breakers. You can use the output side of these circuit breakers as a source for powering accessories, such as lights. For the 24 Volt charging system to function properly, you must keep the load on each 1/2 of the system as nearly equal as possible.

The circuit breakers mentioned above are VERY IMPORTANT for safety in case of a wiring short. I'm not sure if all the 4020's had them. Deere had a kit to update the 4010's to include the circuit breakers, and that may apply to early 4020's as well. If you do not have them, I would check with Deere to see if the kit to install them is still available.

I'm sure a replacement wiring harness is still available from Deere, and, while costly, if your wiring is torn up, it might be better to start with a new harness than to risk an electrical fire if the poor wires short out. Often, the two smaller breakers and the light and key switches, all mounted beneath the steering wheel, have seen their better days, too.

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