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What are rasspe knotters?

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Bill

06-18-2003 03:33:27




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I've read mention of rasspe knotters - but who uses them and are they different and or better than JD or NH knotters - or are they using rasspe.

Just courious - thanks in advance.

Bill




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Farmered

06-20-2003 03:01:26




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 Re: What are rasspe knotters? in reply to Bill, 06-18-2003 03:33:27  
The way I heerd it, IH had the original knotter patent. When corn and grain binders were going out, the automatic baler hadn't been thought of. A forward thinking engineer over at New Holland picked up the patent for a song and the automatic baler was born. The other Mfgs. also came out with automatic balers and paid the price to NH to use the knotter patent. IH, under the original agreement with NH, was prohibited from using that design so had to come up with their own. That is why IH knotters are different. (And inferior in my opinion) The first NH balers (70) had the knotter mounted on the side of the bale chamber with the cup of the main gear facing up. This collected a lot of chaff so they had a blower back there to keep the knotter clean. The next model (77) had the knotters turned over with the cups facing down and no blower. Subsequent models have had the knotters mounted horizontally on top of the bale chamber.That's the way I was told it was then. I don't know what agreements exist between the companies now. Ed

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Jerry D in NC

06-18-2003 11:44:31




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 Re: What are rasspe knotters? in reply to Bill, 06-18-2003 03:33:27  
Bill,

I had the same question come to mind when I read the posting below. A little research shows that NH, JD and Ford at least used the Rasspe knotters. I don't have experience with other balers to understand how theirs work. The MF seems to have the same style of knotter as the IH that was being described in the post below. I think, if I remember my history right, Cyrus McCormick actually patented the knotter. What we may have here is an IH manufactured and a Rasspe licensed and modified design that was sold to these companies that were competing with IH.

I have attached the link to the company's home page in Germany (the English section). The twine disc looks very similar to the one on my Ford baler and a neighbors JD 328. Pictures of these knotters show that they have to be first cousins if not siblings. The Billhook springs on the pictured Rasspe on the web site looks to be exactly like the ones on my Ford. Biggest difference I see is the twine knife. But that could be a minor design change over the last 40 years. Now that I have this information I am going to do some more digging and see what I can find out..... I would love to think that we might have found a backup parts source....

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Roy in UK

06-18-2003 14:50:52




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 Re: Re: What are rasspe knotters? in reply to Jerry D in NC, 06-18-2003 11:44:31  
Some baler manufacturers use there own knotters e.g. Claas. Some buy knotters in from companies such as Rasspe. We had an Allis - Chalmers 300 that had Rasspe knotters, and later a Howard Bigbaler with heavy duty Rasspe knotters.



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