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Dan K.

10-05-2001 10:25:37




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I have a problem similar to a recent post. I have a JD 1010 gas tractor with a 3pt two bottom plow. This is the first time I ever plowed land and really enjoyed it even though I made quite a few mistakes. I plowed up several acres of short (3" tall) grass and weeds. I think I went to slow and had the plow to deep for breaking new ground. About half of the area is still green grass. The big slabs of sod were to heavy to turn over, so they just layed back down. So now what can I do to salvage this? I was thinking to leave it sit until about the end of November and hope that what's turned over the grass will die. Then plow it again going faster and shallower to turn over the remaining green grass. Then hopefully by spring I will be able to plant. what do you think of my plan? Do you have any other suggestions of what I could co? Thanks much in advance for any help you can give me.

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Haycreeker

10-05-2001 18:27:21




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 Re: Another Plowing Question in reply to Dan K., 10-05-2001 10:25:37  
Dan, Another thing you might want to consider is how far apart to leave your dead furrows, and which way to plow your headlands. Plowing is a rewarding thing to do, good luck.



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al

10-05-2001 11:38:54




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 Re: Another Plowing Question in reply to Dan K., 10-05-2001 10:25:37  
Glad you enjoyed your first plowing experience. You may salvage the job by now discing the land which will help level it and cut up the sod. Next time you plow consider the fact most plows were designed for a speed of 3 - 3.5 mph (man's walking speed). If the size of the plow matches the size of the tractor, you should be able to plow 6-8 inches and maintain the speed. This will allow the furrow to roll over. Plowing deeper does not increase the covering ability.

Good luck

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Greensburg, La.

10-05-2001 11:34:52




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 Re: Another Plowing Question in reply to Dan K., 10-05-2001 10:25:37  
Go buy a 2 blade pan plow.



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paul

10-05-2001 11:55:15




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 Re: Re: Another Plowing Question in reply to Greensburg, La., 10-05-2001 11:34:52  
Are these aka disk plows, with the big disk blades for bottoms? I've only ever seen 2-3 around here ever, never saw one in the ground, there must be some reason they don't work in our soil conditions 'here'..... They look like a good idea in principle tho.

As long as the ground is worked up now, I too would think about spraying it with Roundup, then disk it until the lumps are gone.

If you don't want to spray, I'd disk it to break up the lumps level it out, hope for some rain & time to make it solid ground again, & then plow it if it works. However, if it is still loose & lumpy in a month, you will quit plowing real quick, as it just plugs up on the old lumps!

--->Paul

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2fordsmike...wait a minute, son.

10-12-2001 19:37:50




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 Re: Re: Re: Another Plowing Question in reply to paul, 10-05-2001 11:55:15  
Paul: What you report may be partially true, but there is a lot more to this than simply the difference between the old one-way disk and the moldboard plow. I'm trying to be polite here. The moldboard plow created its own kind of erosion in the more humid zones; while the one-way was an efficient tool for shallow tillage of the lighter soils in the arid West. When the sandy knolls here in Iowa get dry on top before corn and beans emerge, the sand will start to blow whether plowed, disked, chiseled or lightly cultivated. Should of left all these light soils in bluestem. Mike

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ShepFL

10-05-2001 13:38:51




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 Re: Re: Re: Another Plowing Question in reply to paul, 10-05-2001 11:55:15  
I have used one of these disk plows aka new ground plow aka pan plows for some time now. IMHO they are the cat's meow for breaking new ground hence the name. They will work the he11 out of a tractor though. They roll over materials that a moldboard plow would get stuck in i.e. buried fatlighter stumps etc.

I have been using a friend's for some time and finally located one for myself (see previous posts). Got some red-necking to do to make it functional for my use.

My moldboard plow is being reserved for "clean" ground meaning little or no buried stump materials. Generally use this for the garden spot and the U-Pick operation.

I have spoke with several older gents and the general assumption is that the disk plows were largely responsible for the Okla. Dust Bowl days due to deep cutting. Moldboard plows were less invasive and now in today's world we have "No-Till", "Strip-Till" etc. that even less invasive.

Lack of these in the market is probably due to the fact that they were replaced almost entirely by moldboard plows and balance of them were put under the scrap iron torch.

FWIW

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John Ne.

10-05-2001 22:14:44




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Another Plowing Question in reply to ShepFL, 10-05-2001 13:38:51  
These here pan plows,,, aka known as One-ways in kansas colorado,,, do a good job in light soil,,, but have never tried them where its black and heavy,John in Nebr.



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Roy Howitt

10-05-2001 10:51:34




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 Re: Another Plowing Question in reply to Dan K., 10-05-2001 10:25:37  
Another candidate for the "English Method!" if it is sprayed, disced and then rolled, it should all turn under really nicely, and give it a good clean stat for the following crop.
Roy.



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