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Super A Sediment Bowl Leak

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asyrp43

05-02-2008 07:07:24




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My grandfather's 51 Super A had a slow leak in the sediment bowl so I replaced the sing inside but it started leaking again. I noticed there was a small leaver that I could turn on ths side of the bowl attachment. I turned that until it stoped and it stoped the leak. It runs fine so I guess it's ok to do that but what is the point of that leaver? Thanks for the help! I'm young and trying to learn as much about this piece of my childhood as I can.

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Jim Becker

05-03-2008 09:40:20




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 Re: Super A Sediment Bowl Leak in reply to asyrp43, 05-02-2008 07:07:24  
Most of the original shut-off valves were back seating valves. By design, it was required to open them completely to keep them from leaking at the stem.



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NawlensGator

05-02-2008 07:33:58




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 Re: Super A Sediment Bowl Leak in reply to asyrp43, 05-02-2008 07:07:24  
Mine have a nut below the bowl the that I tighten until the top rim seals against the top gasket sufficiently that it doesn't leak. Before I turn off the tractors I always turn the lever you mention to stop gas flow to the carb. I let the tractor run out of gas and only turn the key off after it stops running. This avoids some carburator problems that can be troublesome.



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asyrp43

05-02-2008 07:43:53




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 Re: Super A Sediment Bowl Leak in reply to NawlensGator, 05-02-2008 07:33:58  
Thanks for the answers. This place is great! I have the nut tight and the bowl is sealed but the cut off valve is where the leak was coming from. I can't remember which way but I turned it until it stoped and it runs fine with no leaks. I guess that is open. I will try turning it off next time I use it and see if that helps. It seems to only leak when it was half way between open and closed. I just wasn't sure what the valve did. Thanks again for all the help!

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ScottyHOMEy

05-02-2008 08:09:26




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 Re: Super A Sediment Bowl Leak in reply to asyrp43, 05-02-2008 07:43:53  
That valve turns and acts the same way as a water spigot. Full counter-clockwise opens it and lets the fuel run down to your carb. Full clockwise should close it off.

A leak in between usually is around the packing around the stem of that valve, just as you describe. Normally, you'll want the valve full open for running and, as others suggest, fully closed when shut down. No real point in running with it in between. In fact, if you do run it only partially open, it's possible to not get enough flow to your carb when you put a heavy load on, so fully open or fully closed is the way to go. If it doesn't leak at either of those points, you don't really NEED to fix anything.

Does that valve turn really easily? If it does and you wanted to try stop the leak, you might take a wrench to the brass nut nearest the end of the handle and tighten it down JUST A LITTLE. It doesn't take much to just compact the packing that's underneath the nut, which is there to prevent just the kind of leak you have. Tighten too much, and you'll actually make the valve too stiff to turn by hand. Put too much muscle on it and you could strip your threads or bust the whole assembly.

You should feel some resistance turning the valve, but only just enough to keep it from leaking while you're turning it open and closed. If that doesn't fix it, it may be that the packing needs replacing but, if the valve seals at the full-open and full-closed positions, and you don't mind a little drip while you're opening and closing it, I wouldn't bother with it unless you feel the need for a project.

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Farmall Ed

05-02-2008 07:23:58




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 Re: Super A Sediment Bowl Leak in reply to asyrp43, 05-02-2008 07:07:24  
Thats you fuel cutoff valve and it's not uncommom to have to cut it off when you shut down. Most old tractors will leak a little when sitting for a while. Ed



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