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tank at the rear of engine on H

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Glenn Chowning

04-27-2008 18:26:52




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I have a 1941H serial# FBH82466 and there is a tank on the right side that is 5 inches in diameter and 12 inches long. Does not seemed to be hooked up to anything. Can anyone tell me what it is for?




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poorfarmall

04-29-2008 16:23:31




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 Re: tank at the rear of engine on H in reply to Glenn Chowning, 04-27-2008 18:26:52  
might sell my little gas tank to help finance the rebuild



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Mike Farmer

04-29-2008 14:20:55




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 Re: tank at the rear of engine on H in reply to Glenn Chowning, 04-27-2008 18:26:52  
Sorry this is late post. Its a petrol(gas) tank for starting distillate or kero or lamp oil engines. I have two H's and one M all of which are dual fuel, and contrary to opinion they are not problems to start, providing you do it properly. MTF



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LenNH

04-28-2008 07:51:51




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 Re: tank at the rear of engine on H in reply to Glenn Chowning, 04-27-2008 18:26:52  
The distillate/kerosene tractors would not start on these fuels with a cold engine. There was a whole process for starting. If the engine happened to have been stopped on the heavy fuel, you had to drain the carburetor through the little petcock on the side. Then you turned on gasoline, started the engine normally, and waited for the engine to heat up. To do this, you closed the radiator shutter via the little crank that's down under the fuel tank. You had to watch the heat indicator, of course. When you judged the engine hot enough to work, you closed the gasoline valve and opened the valve from the main tank. The shutter had to be manipulated to keep the engine hot enough to work, but not allow overheating. If an engine like this were allowed to idle very long, it would spit and sputter when you tried to open the throttle. I went through all this just once with my father's 10-20, and decided it was one big hassle. I suppose if the fuel really was a lot cheaper, it would have saved some money in the long run. One of the things about these tractors that is not so obvious is that they have a lower compression-ratio than gasoline tractors, and even when run on gasoline, will produce a bit less power than the high-compression models. If you were to try to run kerosene through a high-compression engine, you would get some very heavy knocking (like in a diesel!) and probably damage the pistons. Earlier tractors had a "spark lever" that allowed the driver to retard the spark if he heard any knocking. Some tractors even had "water injection" (just a little jet that let some water from a small tank into the manifold).

I am not aware that the distillate models of the H had any way to retard the spark in case of knocking. Do any readers know how this was handled in this tractor series, or wasn't it a problem? My experience with kerosene was confined to the 10-20 I mention above. Did spend a lot years on a kerosene-distillate H and then a gasoline model, so am pretty familiar with them in general.

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Glenn Chowning

04-28-2008 19:18:47




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 Re: tank at the rear of engine on H in reply to LenNH, 04-28-2008 07:51:51  
I appreciate your reply, Ifigured it was for some other type of fuel. The main tank must have been for distilate and the little tank to get the motor started. Did you also run on gas before shutting down like the old TD6? Thanks Glenn



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Mike CA

04-27-2008 19:08:27




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 Re: tank at the rear of engine on H in reply to Glenn Chowning, 04-27-2008 18:26:52  
Those tanks are pretty rare in good condition. They can fetch $75-100 on Ebay.

I"m sure there are many YTers who would be interested in it, including me. But I"m broke. lol



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glennster

04-27-2008 18:39:08




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 Re: tank at the rear of engine on H in reply to Glenn Chowning, 04-27-2008 18:26:52  
your h was probably either a distillate or kerosene fueled tractor. the small tank was the starting tank, held about 7/8 's of a gallon of gas. you would start the tractor on gas, let it warm up, close the small valve at the botton of the little tank and then open the valve at the bottom of the main tank. your carburetor prolly has a small wing nut type drain valve in the bowl too.



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flashback

04-27-2008 18:36:30




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 Re: tank at the rear of engine on H in reply to Glenn Chowning, 04-27-2008 18:26:52  
It is a gasoline tank used when distillate and kerosene were popular tractor fuels. You started the tractor on gasoline and then switched over to the distillate or kerosene. Most of the systems have been long discarded but many keep the tank to keep tractor relatively original. Some probably are in use the old way. Jack



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Pat-CT

04-27-2008 18:36:15




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 Re: tank at the rear of engine on H in reply to Glenn Chowning, 04-27-2008 18:26:52  
distailate tank



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