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Farmall H - PTO wont fully disengage

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Jim @ red dog f

04-18-2008 07:17:07




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On my '46 H the pto will not fully disengage, in off position will continue to rotate slowly, even under load of brush hog. Any suggestions on possible cause and repair? Thanks Jim




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Randy-IA

04-18-2008 23:43:33




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 Re: Farmall H - PTO wont fully disengage in reply to Jim @ red dog farm, 04-18-2008 07:17:07  
I'm putting bearings in the M and tonight I was replacing the pto bearing and cleaning it up . From what I can see there are two different areas that could cause the problem , the bushing in the countershaft or the sleeve and after reading the post about the thick oil that could be it also . The sleeve just requires the oil be drained and the pto pulled , taken apart and cleaned . Turn the shaft with the tractor not running and the pto disengaged . It should feel snug but not tight with NO or very little fore or aft movement . The bushing might be a bigger problem . It's hard to get out with the countershaft on the bench so doing it two feet inside a hole six inches across might be difficult . I had to cut mine out with a hacksaw blade . Good luck ! ...Randy

Oh yeah It could be the shifter shaft is worn out too . That's also a oil drain and remove . In case you've never removed a pto on a H it's easy . This way will remove the whole housing . Find a piece of pipe that fits snug over the shaft about two feet long or a little longer for leverage , remove the oil in the rearend , remove the bolts holding the outer diameter of the housing , while counter balancing the shaft pull it out straight . Ya might have to twist it some to get it out of the bushing up front . If ya have to twist a lot you have a bushing problem . To remove the shaft from the housing remove the two bolts and the oil seal/bearing retainer . Then pull or bump the shaft out the hole you just opened up till the bearing is free of the housing a little ways and work it off the shifter lug . Then you can remove the sleeve . The rest is evident if you want to renew the bearing . Tap the new bearing on gently until the nut has full threads then use it to push the bearing on the rest of the way and tighten pretty good with a screwdriver in the cross drilled hole on the end of the shaft to hold it . add the washer and the jam nut and tighten very good and bend the washer back .

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D Slater

04-18-2008 08:27:31




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 Re: Farmall H - PTO wont fully disengage in reply to Jim @ red dog farm, 04-18-2008 07:17:07  
If it quits turning at full speed when disengaged but still turns the transmission oil can be real thick, but you can usualy stop pto with your hand if thats the problem. Or there may be a problem with the forward end of PTO shaft that pilots into transmission counter shaft. If it turns at full speed the shifting parts and shifting sleeve needs checked. The PTO has to come out to check for both problems.

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Farmall Ed

04-18-2008 08:24:24




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 Re: Farmall H - PTO wont fully disengage in reply to Jim @ red dog farm, 04-18-2008 07:17:07  
I have two H"s that do the same, Ican push the lever hard against the stop and they stop rotating, I havent noticed any rotation when loaded. It hasn't caused any problem so far, but running with a load is not good. don't know any quick fix, maybe someone will. Ed



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