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Mike CA

04-08-2008 20:21:30

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I was looking through Ebay, deciding if I was going to put my extra H hood up for auction, and I ran across an add for a '44 H that says "hard to find war time iron shift knob".

Are they hard to find? Does anyone need one? I think there are at least two at my local junk yard. I could pull them and sell them on ebay if no one here needs one, and if they are rare.

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Steven f/AZ

04-10-2008 08:25:31

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Re: war time shift knobs in reply to Mike CA, 04-08-2008 20:21:30

No hurry at all... I hope I can find some parts you can use when I get home next week!

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Mike CA

04-10-2008 07:44:56

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Re: war time shift knobs in reply to Mike CA, 04-08-2008 20:21:30

Steven f/AZ said: Mike, let me know what you can get the complete lever for... Dad's H has a really sloppy lever on it now and I'd like to set it up with the steel knob... Don't make a special trip just for me, though.

It will be a while till I need to head that way again. But I'll try to keep it in mind next time I'm out there. Are you in any hurry? If so I can try to re-direct.

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Steven f/AZ

04-10-2008 07:21:21

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Re: war time shift knobs in reply to Mike CA, 04-08-2008 20:21:30

Mike, let me know what you can get the complete lever for... Dad's H has a really sloppy lever on it now and I'd like to set it up with the steel knob... Don't make a special trip just for me, though.

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Andy Motteberg

04-09-2008 18:24:57

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Re: war time shift knobs in reply to Mike CA, 04-08-2008 20:21:30

My 1943 H has the cast iron shift knob on it and I like them better than the rubber ones. They are a little rare, but can usually be found when you need one. Many items on eBay have been going cheap lately, but I've seen those shift knobs go for $50-$60 on eBay sometimes.

Andy.

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Mike CA

04-09-2008 11:34:37

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Re: war time shift knobs in reply to Steven f/AZ, 04-08-2008 20:21:30

Steven f/AZ said:
Mike CA said: (quoted from post at 07:58:00 04/09/08) Thanks for the comments. Sounds like more trouble than it's worth if no one here is in real need.

Depends on what the yard wants for them. If you can get them for $5 and sell for $40 you've got some extra $$ to put into your tractor...

That's true for a number of parts, but I'm so dang busy that I usually do stuff for people to make it worth my while, rather than just trying to profit. For example, that stage II grill I found in really good condition, I sold to the guy for the price I was given, $100. He was nice enough to throw in a little finders fee. But I found out I could have gotten around $500 for a grill like that on Ebay. But I felt better that someone from this board got the benefit of a good grill.

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Mike CA

04-09-2008 07:58:00

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Re: war time shift knobs in reply to Mike CA, 04-08-2008 20:21:30

Thanks for the comments. Sounds like more trouble than it's worth if no one here is in real need.

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Steven f/AZ

04-09-2008 08:13:40

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Re: war time shift knobs in reply to Mike CA, 04-09-2008 07:58:00

Mike CA said: (quoted from post at 07:58:00 04/09/08) Thanks for the comments. Sounds like more trouble than it's worth if no one here is in real need.

Depends on what the yard wants for them. If you can get them for $5 and sell for $40 you've got some extra $$ to put into your tractor...

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Allan In NE

04-09-2008 08:11:38

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Re: war time shift knobs in reply to Mike CA, 04-09-2008 07:58:00

For sure,

Lead pennies from WWII are getting kind of rare too, but don't know of anyone that really wants one. :>)

Allan

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NDS

04-09-2008 17:13:10

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Re: war time shift knobs in reply to Allan In NE, 04-09-2008 08:11:38

I will give a nickle for a mint one might even go a dime for 2.

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NDS

04-09-2008 17:13:10

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Re: war time shift knobs in reply to Allan In NE, 04-09-2008 08:11:38

I will give a nickle for a mint one might even go a dime for 2.

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Steven f/AZ

04-09-2008 07:00:10

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Re: war time shift knobs in reply to Mike CA, 04-08-2008 20:21:30

My 42 H's all have rubber knobs... One of my '46 W-9's has rubber, one has the iron knob.

Best way to sell anything on eBay is to call it "rare" or "collectible" or "one of a kind."

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Slappy

04-09-2008 05:45:18

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Re: war time shift knobs in reply to Mike CA, 04-08-2008 20:21:30

They show up fairly regularly on e-bay. I bought the whole shifter assembly with the cast knob about 4 years ago for my '44 H for about $15. I think that people on e-bay over use the term rare, I guess it helps them get a better price from uninformed buyers. But compared to heat shields on distillate manifolds, or spark arrestors for stationary engins, iron knobs are downright plentyful. By all means though, save them from the salvage yard - they sure aren't making any more of them.

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Owen Aaland

04-09-2008 03:59:45

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Re: war time shift knobs in reply to Mike CA, 04-08-2008 20:21:30

You should take the shift lever along with the iron knob. Shift levers for the cast iron knob are threaded while the rubber ones are not.

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edward_m

04-08-2008 23:02:54

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Re: war time shift knobs in reply to Mike CA, 04-08-2008 20:21:30

It's REALLY rare on non-wartime IH's....it was only used for a few years, and discontinued after the war. So they shouldn't even show up on anything before or after the war.

It was supposedly started in '43, and ran thru to '45. Didn't happen in '42, as rationing hadn't geared up yet, and stocks of rubber knobs had to run out first. You MIGHT find some on early serial '46's, as supplies of steel knobs would have been used up, but I haven't heard or seen of any.

If you can get a couple cheap, by all means put them on e-bay: don't take the chance they disappear (remember what iron brings now). Last I looked, they were bringing 40$ on average, but that could be higher now.

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edward_m

04-09-2008 11:34:15

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Re: war time shift knobs in reply to edward_m, 04-08-2008 23:02:54

Tractorfan1 said:
"I have a '46 H, that has a P code rear end, with the cast iron shift knob..."

And can we prove thats original? One of the other posters said he bought the shifter and knob to put on his '44. It will be year correct, but is that original to that serial? Prob'ly not.

So much has been changed and modified on our tractors over the years its a miracle they're still red! What they SHOULD be per IH is sooooo different from what we have, and really, is that so important. Year correct is as close as we can come, and unless the tractor has been in the family since it was built, we can't prove what it came with or without straight out of the factory.

I've got a '43 that I know HAD a steel knob/shifter set-up, but it was changed by the owner years ago (he broke the shifter shaft, and just replaced it with what he could buy cheap).
I'm going to change it back, but unless the owner had told me, I'd never know that it wasn't original.

So a steel knob on a '46 is just fine....who knows if its original or not. As long as you're happy with it, then alls right with the world.

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Farmallgray

04-12-2008 12:27:26

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Re: war time shift knobs in reply to edward_m, 04-09-2008 11:34:15

Guy Fay was telling me that a lot of the material shortages came after the war was over. so it is very possible for a '46 to have the cast iron knob. It was after the war that they used the more orange (more yellow pigment) "extended" IH red paint because of pigment shortages.

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Tractorfan1

04-09-2008 10:47:06

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Re: war time shift knobs in reply to edward_m, 04-08-2008 23:02:54

edward_m said: (quoted from post at 23:02:54 04/08/08) It's REALLY rare on non-wartime IH's....it was only used for a few years, and discontinued after the war. So they shouldn't even show up on anything before or after the war.

It was supposedly started in '43, and ran thru to '45. Didn't happen in '42, as rationing hadn't geared up yet, and stocks of rubber knobs had to run out first. You MIGHT find some on early serial '46's, as supplies of steel knobs would have been used up, but I haven't heard or seen of any.

If you can get a couple cheap, by all means put them on e-bay: don't take the chance they disappear (remember what iron brings now). Last I looked, they were bringing 40$ on average, but that could be higher now.

I have a '46 H, that has a P code rear end, with the cast iron shift knob...

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Tractorfan1

04-09-2008 10:46:33

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Re: war time shift knobs in reply to edward_m, 04-08-2008 23:02:54

I have a '46 that has a P code rear end, with the cast iron shift knob...

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Janicholson

04-08-2008 20:28:11

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Re: war time shift knobs in reply to Mike CA, 04-08-2008 20:21:30

I think they are rare on all non wartime Tractors, and on 1/2 of the wartime produced before rubber was rationed. In other words they are probably on the tractors that they should be on. The rubber knobs are (opinion) a grum bling point on our tractors, (I glued ours on with epoxy!!. JimN

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