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Another sad trip to the scrap yard

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GeneMO

04-08-2008 20:21:37




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I took another load to the salvage yard today.
$235.00 for a 14' grain truck load of just plain junk. Rusted out, old hog feeders and water tanks, old disk blades, cultivator shovels, etc. Nothing of any collector or antique vale. I pulled all that out.

At the salvage yard I saw a Farmall F-30, A ford square baler, cut in half with the last bale still in the chamber. A steel wheel Van Brunt grain drill, and ole Massey pull type combine, and other old steel, too numerous to mention. The salvage yard will absolutely not sell anything back, after it goes across the scale.

Makes you want to post a guard at the gate.

Gene

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DARDAN

04-10-2008 00:38:24




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 Re: Another sad trip to the scrap yard in reply to GeneMO, 04-08-2008 20:21:37  
Hey guys, this is America! Everything is expedible and disposable!! If it ain't mine and it's old, it's an eyesore. What you're doing is everybody else's buisiness.
UNFORTUNTELY.
But we will get all this metal back from the Chinese, as trash at Walmart, or like the Japanese in the '40s.



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Jeef

04-09-2008 21:05:54




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 Re: Another sad trip to the scrap yard in reply to GeneMO, 04-08-2008 20:21:37  
I am probably gonna get flamed, but I am one of those lowly "scrappers" who people call to clean their property up. We do about a farm a week. After a year or so I got to feeling like we were throwing away the past and rented a small ex used car lot and started setting the implements out for sale. We priced everything based upon weight. if the current price was 130 a ton at that time you could buy the pieces for 200 a ton. We had nothing but grief from the county, city, nasty buyers and people wanting to buy the "junk" for penny's on the dollar. Now I don't even bat an eye when the Items are crushed. If there were a stedy market for the old equiptment we wouldn't scrap a piece, but the folks who want it are to few and far between.
Right now with heavy shearing bringing over 240 a ton, we don't keep anything unless WE can use it. I have even gotten to the point that once it is in the trailer it cannot be bought. I ended up spending mass time and loosing money selling with indecisive people... Sorry to sound Bitter but this is a sore spot for me.

I had a gheil grinder with scale on the trailer that I had fooled with for over a month 4 diffrent buyers who all wanted it and backed out as I pulled into the yard 2 trucks pulled in behid me both wanting the grinder. I had a weight on it and offered it for double the scrap price about 300.00 at that time and when they started trying to talk me down I told them to talk to the yard caus it was sold. it was set off to the side for them to "Buy" when it was there a week later I asked the owner and he said it was for sale for 600.00
Maybee i am the problem, but even Junk has a value and it won't move it's self for free.

LAZY,,,,, Have you ever loaded a wheeless combine on a trailer whole with a 8000 lb winch, a snatch block and pry bar?? I hardly call that lazy.

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CHinNY

04-10-2008 01:30:20




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 Re: Another sad trip to the scrap yard in reply to Jeef, 04-09-2008 21:05:54  
Amen,I sell crawler parts and i'm on my fifth container filling with scrap and this week i was qouted $350. a ton so i'm closing my eyes alot. This is the first time i feel it is paying me to scarp at $80 a ton it cost me momey to handle it. This way i' cleaning up and making money. It's hard work can't find anyone that wants to work so i have a bad attitude about people that get unemployment and wellfare with all the work i have and no one wanting a job,also about people wanting to buy stuff i had a Case DC foot clutch eagle hitch offered it to several Case guys for $500. about scrap price i figured well they just hemmed and hawed and kept telling me i should save this pull that well in the hopper it went after a month of keeping it on the side good part is the price went up $20. a ton in that month.

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John - OH

04-09-2008 20:22:46




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 Re: Another sad trip to the scrap yard in reply to GeneMO, 04-08-2008 20:21:37  
Always amazes me what people will scrap. I frequent the scrap yard and have salvaged many good things. The ironic thing is 99% of the time, the stuff works and I don't have to do a thing to it. I guess one man's junk is another man's treasure. It's good for me so I won't complain.



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Andy Motteberg

04-09-2008 18:30:42




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 Re: Another sad trip to the scrap yard in reply to GeneMO, 04-08-2008 20:21:37  
An F-30 in the scrap yard? That just makes me sick. Me and my Dad do not haul good tractors or parts for scrap, just junk stuff and I have not seen a tractor out there yet and I hope I will never. Me and my Dad know of a few places around here that have some old tractors in their yard and I think we should buy them before they are scrapped. We always get a bunch of stupid people who come to our place and ask of we want to sell them any of our cars or machinery for scrap, but we will not sell them anything.

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Andrew Kappers

04-09-2008 19:29:54




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 Re: Another sad trip to the scrap yard in reply to Andy Motteberg, 04-09-2008 18:30:42  
I am on your side. Is sorry that someone out there would like to restore those old tractors or use them for parts but instead people are to lazy and throw them on the trailer for junk. In the last few months I have been to almost every auction I can make it to and try to buy mostly older IH equipment that must scrappers would like to get there hands on. If it is something I already have, I just try to get the bid up past they are willing to pay. Thats one way to get the job done. Because of this, I have been ablet to save a decent set of cultivators for an h, c, m, 2 drawbar mount mowers for an h or m, no 80 combine, couple grain drills, planters, plows, and much more. Someday I plan to restore all this stuff and start up my own museum or donate it to a musuem in my area so this stuff will be around for ever. Thanks for all you guys that have the same attitude towards junking good equipment that I have.

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Red Mist

04-09-2008 11:02:10




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 Re: Another sad trip to the scrap yard in reply to GeneMO, 04-08-2008 20:21:37  
G-Mo: It must be a sad scene, indeed. Add to that the latest Wall Street Journal article about the ultra-rich (and, therefore, soon the speculators) into the antique tractor hobby, and we have two major problems: Scarcity and Sky-rocketing prices. It has the potential to severely damage the hobby, I'm afraid. mike



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sean mcdonnell

04-09-2008 09:02:31




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 Re: Another sad trip to the scrap yard in reply to GeneMO, 04-08-2008 20:21:37  
My home town Vo-Tech school has a similar policy. Every few years they get Cars donated to them for the automechanics classes. They also get brand new engines from the big 3 delivered in crates. most of the cars are in great shape and the engines never even run. They just tear them down and reassemble them for the class. When the next batch arrives they toss the brand new stuff on the scrap truck. My buddies and I had some luck when we were in shcool getting the teachers to "look the other way" when those new parts were going on the scrap truck.

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Bob Farrell

04-09-2008 08:29:56




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 Re: Another sad trip to the scrap yard in reply to GeneMO, 04-08-2008 20:21:37  
Back in about 1975 in Little Rock, Ar., had a bar aquaintence (drank beer together) that was in the railroad salvage business. When a train wrecked - he cleaned up the site. One evening he told the story of cleaning up a site where a train car load of new Cadilacs had rolled. The caddys were dented up. He had to haul them to the scrap man. Not allowed to sell them for parts. Stupid rule. bob f.

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russ hamm

04-09-2008 08:42:17




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 Re: Another sad trip to the scrap yard in reply to Bob Farrell, 04-09-2008 08:29:56  
We had the running frame from a new ford that met such a fate in our auto mechanics class back then.The body was removed but the dash was still there and the seat/ floor pan. Fell off a rail car when loading/ or unloading we heard.



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russ hamm

04-09-2008 06:15:32




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 Re: Another sad trip to the scrap yard in reply to GeneMO, 04-08-2008 20:21:37  
I feel your pain. I've been parting out and hauling off for a year now on some f-30/ w-30 and f-20 tractors i had at the farm for years. All of them were cracked block types, but they weren't hurting a thing in the tree row in my opinion. BUT these days in the county's opinion (and some "towners" moving out to the country) they are an eyesore. All it takes here is ONE solitary complaint to the county, and they can give us thirty days to clean up. After thirty days if it's not done, they can do it for us and send us the bill. If any oil is psilled in the process, the EPA can step in and clean up. So far all i can see from city folks moving to rural is higher taxes and more government takeover of our lifestyles.

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VA Gasman

04-09-2008 04:02:44




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 Re: Another sad trip to the scrap yard in reply to GeneMO, 04-08-2008 20:21:37  
I know what GeneMo is talking about . I was at scrap yard last tuesday. Old bicyles, flattened barrels, flattened rusty fence wire, rusty shelving is bringing $1.60 a hundred. The operator has a gravel lot where he pulls good old pieces and sets them up for sale. He has rows of cast iron wheels , pull type grader, 66 international p-up, etc. The part we will have to deal with is that we are going to pay premium price for commodities when it comes back to us on our market in about 8-12 months.

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tn terry t

04-08-2008 20:51:25




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 Re: Another sad trip to the scrap yard in reply to Hugh MacKay, 04-08-2008 20:21:37  
a friend of mine is a loader operator at a scrap yard here he told me the last time i was there that i just missed seeing a feller jump up on a trailer and crawl on a Cub FIRE IT UP AND BACK IT OFF THE TRAILER, WHAT A DAMN IDIOT :cry:



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edward_m

04-08-2008 23:05:40




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 Re: Another sad trip to the scrap yard in reply to tn terry t, 04-08-2008 20:51:25  
....he DROVE it off the trailer to be scrapped?

Wow.

Someone needs to use a shotgun on that guy: too stupid to let breed.



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