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will a loader off a M hook right up to my H?

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kwm219

03-25-2008 04:02:42




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i found a loader, currently on a narrow front M and was wondering if it will bolt up to my H wide front, it looks like there won"t be any interferance with the axle, but is everything else the same? thanks kurt




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casered

03-25-2008 15:07:09




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 Re: will a loader off a M hook right up to my H? in reply to kwm219, 03-25-2008 04:02:42  
Just to add my two cents here. If the loader is an IH then the other guys are correct about the spacers as long as it is a model 30 or 31 power loader. These required the spacers in between the frame rail and the front bolster area of the tractor on the H but not on the M. These loaders are easily identified as they use a C-channel frame that runs from the bucket all the way back to the rear axle. Kind of a pain to mount if you plan on taking it on and off a lot but a very stout unit.

If the loader was a model 33 or 33A the spacer plates are not used or either tractor as the loader mounts different in the front. On these loaders there is a triangular shaped mount that attaches to the rear axle of the tractor and then there is a tubular bar that runs from the top of that mount in the front down to the side frame rail of the tractor. There should be 2 holes in the end of that tubular bar and 2 holes on the frame it mounts too. This is how you change the width of the spacing on these loaders to fit either tractor. Where it meets up with the frame rail it will align with a hole on the siderail which you can then put a bolt in to attach the front point. These loaders are MUCH MUCH easier to put on and off if you plan on taking it off much. They simply pin on at the top end of the lift arm and pin on at the bottom of the cylinder. Just unhook your hydraulic hose and take the pin out of the bottom end of the cylinder and rest the cylinder on the ground. Now unhook the top pin and back the tractor away and the loader should stay right where it is. This stlye of loader has a curved pipe framework from the rear bracket it mounts on down to the bucket pivot. These will work with wide or narrow front tractors but they AREN'T nearly as stout as the other style 30 or 31.

We have both a 31 and a 33A loader here at our farm and have had both on H's and M's over the years. If you have a narrow front and want something a little tougher that you won't need to put on and off a lot get a 30 or 31. If you have a wide front or want to use it for lighter work or take it on or off frequently get a 33 or 33A. This is all assuming that it is an IH loader. There are others out there and like Allen said any can be made to fit with enough enginuity.

Just my opinion and two cents for what they are worth.

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Brian in MA

03-25-2008 13:14:24




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 Re: will a loader off a M hook right up to my H? in reply to kwm219, 03-25-2008 04:02:42  
I have the same set-up on my narrow front H that came off an M. There are spacers on the front brackets, about 1" thick each side if I recall. Other than that, they are essentially the same. If it is a wide front end, I'd double check that the arms don't hit the front axle, mine would hit an axle, or at least not drop the bucket all the way to the ground.



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Allan In NE

03-25-2008 06:08:18




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 Re: will a loader off a M hook right up to my H? in reply to kwm219, 03-25-2008 04:02:42  
Oh heck yeah,

Like these other fellas say tho, the difference will be in the mounts.

Genereally speaking, any loader will fit any tractor. Tools required: welder, torch, chop saw and a decent supply of scrap iron and bolts.

Allan



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dej(jed)

03-25-2008 05:04:31




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 Re: will a loader off a M hook right up to my H? in reply to kwm219, 03-25-2008 04:02:42  
Yes-It will hook up. You need to shim the front rail mounts out a bit though. No big deal though.
Sometimes you can just flip the mounting brackets.



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IaGary

03-25-2008 04:21:45




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 Re: will a loader off a M hook right up to my H? in reply to kwm219, 03-25-2008 04:02:42  
Frame is narrower on the H than what the M is.

Gary



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