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Restoring Grandpa's C

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redneckchevy9

03-03-2008 13:48:23




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If anyone out there could be kind enough to lend me some tips/knowledge about restoring, it would be much appreciated. I am currently thinking about beginning to restore my grandpa"s 1949 Farmall C. It is in great running order & I just put new points in it. I would love to be able to bring it back to looking like the day he bought it. Please help with any ideas or tips that could help me bring this Farmall back to glory.

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Kristof

03-04-2008 09:39:32




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 Re: Restoring Grandpa's C in reply to redneckchevy9, 03-03-2008 13:48:23  
If you have any questions... I'm working on mine right now, it's almost finished. Might be able to help you :)



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Ron-MO

03-03-2008 16:34:26




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 Re: Restoring Grandpa's C in reply to redneckchevy9, 03-03-2008 13:48:23  
Like other have said, it all depends on what you are after. If you are wanting it just back like it was when your grandfather had it you might not have nearly as much work as others put into them. I set out a couple years ago to put one of my old tractors back in decent shape where it looked good, was reliable, and I was not afraid of using it to work. I feel I accomplished this. The tractor ran well, but looked bad due to some surface scratches, rust, a couple dings here and there, slipping clutch, and very dirty. I stripped off all the sheet metal, ordered a new clutch/pressure plate, bought some sandpaper, both rattle cans, and a few quarts. Here is where some would cringe....After cleaning everything up really well I started brushing all the cast, then used rattle cans to flow out the paint to make it look acceptable. I rattle can sprayed the sheet metal, put it all back together and I will have to say it probably looks better than it had since it was a year old. If you look at some of the old photos when these tractors were new or near new they did not have the high gloss paints, and all the rubber, plug wires, etc was painted. If you really want it to look like it was when it was new you do not need the poly paints with clear coats, and about any decent paint will look as good or better than it was new, and you will not be afraid to use it either. I plan on doing a C which my father had since the late 50's, and I inherited soon, and plan on doing the exact same type job. Total cost on my job was less than $100, and has held up well so far, and I work it often. Years ago I was into the older cars which I painted for show. I was literally afraid of driving them for putting a scratch on them. I got over it. I enjoy using the old tractors too much to put them in show condition and not being able to work them. Oh, and mine still have a few leaks too. Nothing major, but you would not want to park them in your nice garage for long. I keep a bag of kitty litter around for oil dry, and dont worry about it.

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redneckchevy9

03-04-2008 06:03:18




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 Re: Restoring Grandpa's C in reply to Ron-MO, 03-03-2008 16:34:26  
It sounds like you read my mind pretty well. You bascially summed up what my expectations are for this project. The "C" has a Woods belly mower on it right now, so it does so some work & I don't want to worry about getting it dirty while working. But I would still like to be able to bring it back to the shop & give her a bath & take her for a parade ride, etc...



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Steven f/AZ

03-03-2008 14:30:17




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 Re: Restoring Grandpa's C in reply to redneckchevy9, 03-03-2008 13:48:23  
First off, I think it is awesome that you want to restore your Grandpa's C! I wish I could find some of Grandpa's tractors... for now I have to settle for a couple of my Dad's.

If you had to choose just 1 book to help you, it would be "Farmall Letter Series Tractors" by Guy Fay. He frequents this message board and will answer specific questions from time to time that aren't covered in his books. This particular book goes through the changes that occured over the run of the tractor models, decal placement, and basic originality tips. Amazon.com has it for around $20... Link

After that, if you plan on doing any repairs or overhauling, I would purchase the owner's manual and shop manual from binderbooks dot com If you want even more detail, the parts manual has excellent diagrams and parts breakdowns (also available online at Link with a little searching). The I&T shop manual is good for specs and clearances on various parts.

For restoration in more general terms, take a look at "How to Restore Classic Farmall Tractors" Link

And of course, ask questions here any time you are stuck on something! Many of us have experience in rebuilding engines, transmissions, etc. and also painting. Lots of people also have pictures to share, too.

Good luck!

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REDNECKCHEVY9

03-04-2008 13:40:30




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 Re: Restoring Grandpa's C in reply to Steven f/AZ, 03-03-2008 14:30:17  
Steven, thanks for those couple links - I just checked them out & it looks like something that could be a very helpful tool.

Yes, I think I am very lucky to be able to restore one of my grandpa's tractors. It's a damn shame that the 1086 (the one in my picture)we basically rebuilt got sold @ his farm auction (1 week before he died). I would love to be able to track that down & buy it back.

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Dave_Id

03-03-2008 14:41:02




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 Re: Restoring Grandpa's C in reply to redneckchevy9, 03-03-2008 13:48:23  
If you are not real familiar with this forum, you can do a search on the archives and get just about any subject you are interested in. They go back quite a few years.



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Janicholson

03-03-2008 14:39:24




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 Re: Restoring Grandpa's C in reply to redneckchevy9, 03-03-2008 13:48:23  
The first issue is your intent to make it look like it was just purchased. Good idea. (real restoration is usually reserved for tractors that will be museum pieces and be disassembled to the last pin and screw so that every last component can be inspected and made to specification. (I don't think this is what you are after).
If you believe it is operating just fine, a cosmetic repaint is a great idea.
Farmalls were painted all at once, Hood and muffler were off, the distributor, serial # plate, distributor cap and wires, steering wheel rim, lenses, and name plates on the generator etc. were masked off. the axles had cardboard tubes put on them, and all was painted. Hoses, hose clamps, belts and all were sprayed red (no primer).
Cleaning everything down to the last detail to solid paint, sanding rust away is necessary.
If the sheet metal is pitted, a filler should be used to get back to smooth.
Once prepped, Paint it Several paint options are available, but almost all are more modern and look wetter than the original. Especially those that have a clear coat on them. It is all a matter of money. The better the paint, the more it costs.
There are going to be many who recommend the low pressure guns, I am one.
The only thing I will recommend is clean clean clean, then never use a spray can to do the job. Good luck, JimN

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Bud W

03-03-2008 15:39:19




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 Re: Restoring Grandpa's C in reply to Janicholson, 03-03-2008 14:39:24  
Just curious as to why you said to never use a spray can. Is there a reason other than quality of the finished job? In fact I have seen tractors painted with IH spray cans and they really looked nice although maybe not as nice as using a gun if you have some experience and know what your doing.



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Janicholson

03-03-2008 15:55:02




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 Re: Restoring Grandpa's C in reply to Bud W, 03-03-2008 15:39:19  
Welllll l,
For touching up sore spots, and getting by in a pinch, OK. I confess to having done some. But if a person bothers to do it well, do it right. JimN



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