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lift for pull type mower

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John Koritansky

02-29-2008 08:08:27




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Here's an idea I had that I am tempted to try; and I wondered if anybody out there has made a similar atempt, with advice or maybe a warning. I bought a pull type sicle mower, a New Holland 450, with a hydraulic cylinder lift. I would like to pull it with my Farmall Super A. My idea is that, instead of installing a remote hydraulic on the tractor, I might operate the lift with a cable, attached to the rockshaft arms. The trick is in maintaining an equal distance from the lift arm on the mower to the point of attachment on the tractor when I turn. So, my idea is to run the cable from the lift arm on the mower through some sort of spool or pulley that would be located directly above the hitch pin that hitches the mower itself to the tractor. Then I would run the cable along the drawbar to a pulley and from there up to the rockshaft arm. Whadaya think? Anybody ever try this? Cool?

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Haas

02-29-2008 18:46:07




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 Re: lift for pull type mower in reply to John Koritansky, 02-29-2008 08:08:27  
Our mowers back in the 50s used with the Super A used a cable from the mower to the touch control rockshaft for lifting. However the mowers we had were bolted rigidly to the drawbar and had swivel wheels on the back. Thus a pivot was not a problem. The cable we used just ran from the mower accross the platform between your feet to the rockshaft arm. Not OSHA and safety approved by todays standards, but it worked and we knew not to get our feet in the way of the cable.

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GordoSD

02-29-2008 16:46:14




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 Re: lift for pull type mower in reply to John Koritansky, 02-29-2008 08:08:27  
Take a look at the JD 350 sickle mower. It has a cahin you run under the drawbar. When you lift the mower with a fast hitch. or a three point , the chain pulls a rod, which raises the bar.

Gordo



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Clefus

02-29-2008 16:18:12




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 Re: lift for pull type mower in reply to John Koritansky, 02-29-2008 08:08:27  
My 27v manual listed a cable attachment on H and M tractors...

I have a lift cylinder on mine.....



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TractormanNC

02-29-2008 13:45:18




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 Re: lift for pull type mower in reply to John Koritansky, 02-29-2008 08:08:27  
Back in the 50s we did this very thing. Pulled an AC60 All Crop combine (which had its own engine) with a Farmall Super A. Had a cable hooked to the rockshaft arms, went down to a pulley beside and slightly to the rear of the hitch point and on back to raise and lower the cutterbar. Used it for YEARS. Worked slick.



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dave from ny

02-29-2008 11:43:01




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 Re: lift for pull type mower in reply to John Koritansky, 02-29-2008 08:08:27  
I often wondered about the same thing when a tractor has no remote hydraulics. Always wondered if you could use an electric actuator that you sometimes see on atv equipment and the older satelite dishes. I know they have these in 12 volt. Just a thought



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gene bender

02-29-2008 10:51:04




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 Re: lift for pull type mower in reply to John Koritansky, 02-29-2008 08:08:27  
You will need a pivot place where the hitch pin goes so as not to put pressure on the cable when turning. I would add a spring so the cable has slack to allow for turning and going thru low and high spots. It should work fine.



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Janicholson

02-29-2008 09:02:08




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 Re: lift for pull type mower in reply to John Koritansky, 02-29-2008 08:08:27  
That would work but be pretty clumsey to engineer and attach.
Here is a second idea working off of your's. Using two IH old fashoned Liftall cylinders, attach one to the rock shaft, so the rock shaft pushes it in, connect the other to the mower to cause lift from pressure, and gravity lower. With the air bled out, it becomes a master and slave system that would be less complex. The cylinders may be pretty common. JimN

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