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VINTAGE TRACTOR

02-20-2008 15:25:17




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Hi I am looking for any informatin I can find about how i could hook up a spool valve on my 856 international tractor. It has one set of factory outlets, but I need a pair for my loader.
I do not want to use a selector valve. is there a adapter plate available or and ports I can use?
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Jim J

02-21-2008 20:41:06




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 Re: international farmall 856 hydraulic in reply to VINTAGE TRACTOR, 02-20-2008 15:25:17  
I have some power beyond plates that I had CNC built. I will sell you one for $150.00. Several of the larger salvage yards buy them from us.



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Lee in Iowa

02-21-2008 05:04:43




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 Re: international farmall 856 hydraulic in reply to VINTAGE TRACTOR, 02-20-2008 15:25:17  
Ebay item # 300200108791 second valve kit for 856 etc. Lee



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Lee in Iowa

02-20-2008 21:37:36




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 Re: international farmall 856 hydraulic in reply to VINTAGE TRACTOR, 02-20-2008 15:25:17  
I had dual hydraulics on my 8 to begin with and I bought a power beyond plate to bolt on the open sided valve I had and then hooked up a 3 spool loader valve with a joystick on 2 of the spools and run the grapple on the other one. I think it only cost me about $500 5 years ago. Lee



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K.B.-826

02-20-2008 16:02:44




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 Re: international farmall 856 hydraulic in reply to VINTAGE TRACTOR, 02-20-2008 15:25:17  
There are several ways you can do this. The cheapest would be to buy one of those universal 2-spool "loader" valves and mount it on the fender or something, run the supply and return hoses to your factory outlets, and tie your lever back so it's on demand at all times. Second option would be to call a salvage yard and order a second factory valve. There are two styles of factory vavles, one is called a closed-sided valve, as the oil supply and return passages do not go all of the way through, and the open-sided valve, that has the passages all of the way through so another valve can be fed. Tractors with one factory valve either have a closed-sided valve, or an open-sided with a cover plate. Most 56 series have the closed-sided. Look to see what you've got. If you've got a closed-sided, you'll need to get an open-sided valve, install it in the inside position, and install your closed-sided valve on the outside. If you've got the open-sided with a cover plate, you can remove the plate and install a closed sided valve in the outside position, or install another open-sided with the cover plate. Your third option would be to install two open-sided valves with a power-beyond plate, and run hoses off the power-beyond plate to a seperate loader valve, for a total of 4 outlets. This would be the neatest set-up, but would easily cost over $1000 to do, especially if you had to buy two open-sided valves. One last thing, when talking hydraulics, don't confuse the terms "closed-sided" and "open-sided" with the terms "closed-centered" and "open-centered". They mean different things. 856's hyd. system is open-centered, so if you use one of those loader valves, make sure it is set up for open-center operation.

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