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Can't work on the ole tractor blues

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GeneMO

02-11-2008 04:48:45




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I'm stuck at a three day meeting in Chicago, and the tractor sits in the shed!.. It's -2 here, sure could use some of that global warming!

Good thing is I'll get to meet glennster on the way home.

This weekend I am going to try to clean the gunk out of the rear end housing of the Super H. Would you guys remove the bull gears to do a better job of cleaning that gunk out? Doesn't look like it would be too hard to take them out.


Gene

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GordoSD

02-11-2008 09:41:02




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 Re: Can't work on the ole tractor blues in reply to GeneMO, 02-11-2008 04:48:45  
If you need a bull pinion shaft bearing (ST102) I have a nice used one here for cheap.

Gordo



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GordoSD

02-11-2008 09:40:25




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 Re: Can't work on the ole tractor blues in reply to GeneMO, 02-11-2008 04:48:45  
If you need a bull pinion shaft bearing (ST102) I have a nice used one here for cheap.

Gordo



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bc

02-11-2008 08:48:59




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 Re: Can't work on the ole tractor blues in reply to GeneMO, 02-11-2008 04:48:45  
Maybe not much help for you, but I changed fluid this weekend. Flushed it with a gallon of gas. Stuck my finger in the drain hole and ran it around the inside edge. A small buildup of sludge buildups around the drain bullplug which doesn't wash out and holds in a little fluid and crap. This is just a reminder to all to clean around the inside of the drain. Those big bullplugs don't have a magnet but I suppose someone could JB weld one on for the heck of it if someone thought it was necessary.

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Paul in MN

02-11-2008 08:14:35




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 Re: Can't work on the ole tractor blues in reply to GeneMO, 02-11-2008 04:48:45  
Gene,

Another possible reason to take the bull gears out is that they can be swapped left to right ( I think this is correct on the SH). When my H had a lot of slop in the drive train (poor oil and far too many years of hard work) I improved its drive train tightness by swapping the bull gears. If you look real carefully you can see that one side of the gear teeth is worn, from tractor pulling forward, and the other side of each tooth is hardly worn at all (only is worked when the tractor is driven in reverse). The bull gears are interchangable, so this swap gives almost like new performance, and is quite easy to do.

So you get 2 advantages from pulling out the bull gears, easier to clean out the case, and better life from tired parts.

I just can't remember if the small pinion gears can be swapped left to right also, but take a look at that possibility, as they usually show more wear than the bull gears.

Also waiting for some warmer weather to get out in the barn/shop and start working on iron again!

Paul in MN

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old

02-11-2008 07:54:59




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 Re: Can't work on the ole tractor blues in reply to GeneMO, 02-11-2008 04:48:45  
Gene with the weather we are getting here in Missouri right now you better just stay up that way till next week.



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glennster

02-11-2008 06:56:42




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 Re: Can't work on the ole tractor blues in reply to GeneMO, 02-11-2008 04:48:45  
gene, ya should of been up here saturday. got to meet joe illinois. went down to his place to scrounge up some w-9 parts. got a dandy set of wheel weight and a live hydraulic set up. spent the afternoon in the tool shed swappin stories and got to see joes wd-9, w-4, jd ar and b. sweet tractors. lookin forward to seeing joe again. maybe we should get a bus and zoom around the usa visitin all the tractor gang !!!!!

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wildman from mo

02-11-2008 05:48:38




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  z mm hub's for ih h in reply to GeneMO, 02-11-2008 04:48:45  
migraine & others,I have a pair coming from steve il at a fair price. thanks everyone.Wildman PS I may not be on the right post but don't know how to do it right



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sgt bull

02-11-2008 05:09:27




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 Re: Can't work on the ole tractor blues in reply to GeneMO, 02-11-2008 04:48:45  
is your tractor still on its feet? if it is, its a lot easier to put about 5 gallons of a gasoline/diesel mix in it, bundle up warm, put it in gear, pull the plugs or keep your foot on the clutch, and pull it around for about 20 minutes... 95% of the gunk in the tranny will drain right out.... thats the first thing I do to anything before it comes in the shop for a tear down.



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GeneMO

02-11-2008 06:29:14




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 Re: Can't work on the ole tractor blues in reply to sgt bull, 02-11-2008 05:09:27  
No, its in three main parts now. The engine and front bolster are in the front of the shop. The clutch housing is setting on a pair of saw horses, and the rear end has the top off and is supported by a big section of white oak tree.

When I tore it down, I really tore it down!. This started out two years ago to be a "clean up a little grease and paint it" operation. Sorta got out of hand.

It needed it though. so far, I have found a burned valve, manifold bolts stripped out or gaulded in, Clutch disk shot, starter bad, governor gunked up, carb dirty and worn, brakes rusted up. You get the picture.

I wanted a "project" but got a little more than I bargened for.


Gene

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Janicholson

02-11-2008 06:49:27




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 Re: Can't work on the ole tractor blues in reply to GeneMO, 02-11-2008 06:29:14  
With the top off (in my opinion) it is a tossup as to whether to take out he bulls. With solvent it is pretty easy to just rotate the gears and rinse things as they are, Putting a rag under the bull gear and letting it pull through would get any material on the run. Then drain and dry befor putting it back together. My reasoning is that there is not much more revieled with them out. JimN



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