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CArlton

02-07-2008 17:49:49

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Hi! I think I have my 300 row crop sold! NOw down the road I want another tractor. I am done with most of the big work so I can down size. My problem is I live in the hills and need a good stable tractor, Iknow that your probably going to say what was I doing with a 300 row crop? I am safe and don't do anything stupid,at least I'd like to think that. any way i was thinking super a but do the wheels move out farther.Open to all suggestions.

Carl
Montana

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Wesley Stephens

02-07-2008 20:04:54

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Re: buy in reply to CArlton, 02-07-2008 17:49:49

I teach agriculture as my day job, and I have a picture taped to my chalkboard of what appears to be a 300 or 350 utility turned completely upside down. It draws a lot of attention from students and I take the opportunity to tell them of several people I know of who were killed by overturning tractors on ditchbanks. I know of people who have done it on offset farmalls, a 135 MF, and a 2000 or 3000 Ford. This is tobacco country so small tractors are very common usually set to 48" and sometimes people turn them over while mowing steep banks. Any tractor can kill a man before he knows what"s happening, and any tractor can be operated safely.

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Hugh MacKay

02-07-2008 19:50:56

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Re: buy in reply to CArlton, 02-07-2008 17:49:49

Carlton: Your going to pay more for a good SA than you will get for the 300. Also a 300 with 72" wheel tread and liquid ballast will be far safer on hills than a SA on 56" wheel tread and liquid ballast. Believe me, I've got years and years experience with both. I've had my narrow front 300 places, I'd never in my wildest dreams think of taking the SA.

Now, if you don't need the bigger tractor anymore, and you wish to save some operating money, go with the SA. I know what 300 are like, heavy drinkers. The SA, 100, 130 or 140 are economical on fuel, and they don't destroy the pocket book, when your at the parts counter.

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CArlton

02-07-2008 20:27:40

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Re: buy in reply to Hugh MacKay, 02-07-2008 19:50:56

hi, safety is a big concern with me, i have been on tractors since i was a kid in new york on our farm, and have plowed,and cultivated on lots of country in new york. my 300 had a loader and a 3 pt, wide front end. I don't need that big of one as it has done it's job for the last 3 years here on the property, a true workhorse!! A smaller one,will work but I have horses so I will need a loader. tricycle vs. wide front? I look at a wheel barrow and if i had the choice of one up front or the wide front, it is definetly easier to tip the tri wheel barrow. I will have to do research on the physics of the tri vs w fronts.

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Hugh MacKay

02-08-2008 02:39:11

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Re: buy in reply to CArlton, 02-07-2008 20:27:40

Carlton: If my main business was livestock, any kind, and subsequent moving of feed and manure. My first choice would be a skid steer loader. I had a 300 with loader, later a Cockshutt 540 and then Farmall 560 with 2000 loader. I also had close to 200 head of holsteins.

In 1972 I bought a new skid loader. In 1976 I bought a second skid loader. I bought that second skid loader for two reasons, we were finding the 560 too cumbersome at the second farm and we did need a loader at each farm. My second reason is my home barn was built around skidsteer use, and I'd become so dependant on skid steers I couldn't be without one more than 4 hours. There were not rentals out there in those days, thus I had to have my own backup.

What becomes more interesting about this, 6 months after I got the second skid loader the 2000 loader came off the 560 forever. Those little 40 hp skid steers would run circles around the 560. I never did have another loader on a tractor. Today I wouldn't buy a used tractor if it had loader history.

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Bob Kerr

02-07-2008 19:10:39

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Re: buy in reply to CArlton, 02-07-2008 17:49:49

Never tried to tip one over to check it and don"t want to either, but I was told a tricycle tractor with water in the tires and wheel weights is stable unless you have a loader on the front. I work my H and M in hill country and usually try to go straight up or straight down and slow and easy if I have to go across.

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old

02-07-2008 18:31:03

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Re: buy in reply to CArlton, 02-07-2008 17:49:49

Any tractor in the wrong place is unsafe. I can show you a picture of an 8N ford and they sit low to the ground but if you use them wrong they will flip over and kill you just as dead

Hobby farm

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Andy Motteberg

02-07-2008 18:08:48

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Re: buy in reply to CArlton, 02-07-2008 17:49:49

What was wrong with the 300? It is stable and has adjustable wheel tread.

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Dave H (MI)

02-07-2008 18:07:39

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Re: buy in reply to CArlton, 02-07-2008 17:49:49

Many will argue the fact, but there was a study many years ago that actually determined that narrow front tractors are just slightly more stable than wide front. Both will go over in similar conditions if operated unsafely. The most stable tractor I own (with wheels) is a Farmall B. It is a shorter tractor with the wide rear stance of an M. Has to beat the A in the stability department I would think. If it had hydraulics I think it would be my favorite.

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Chris Hable

02-08-2008 14:09:15

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Re: buy in reply to Dave H (MI), 02-07-2008 18:07:39

I would also recommend a farmall B as a small tractor that is very safe. That wide separation of the rear tires makes it very stable. But if you need a loader I don't think an SA or a B are the tractor for you. I would look for a 300 or 350 utility.

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Carlton

02-07-2008 18:49:21

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Re: buy in reply to Dave H (MI), 02-07-2008 18:07:39

in answer to why I got rid of the 300,I have two people that want it and are willing to payas for the 8n I had one liked it and yes it will flip. The guy I bought it from got killed unloading one.I also want a tractor with hydraulics as I loved live hydraulics.

Carl
Montana

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