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Differences between british and US models

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bad_bo_ti

02-06-2008 16:44:46




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I know the sheet metal, electrical, axles, and power steering differ, what else is there? If I get a US operators manual will it have the same info for the british? thanks, chris




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bad_bo_ti

02-09-2008 12:02:49




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 Re: Differences between british and US models in reply to bad_bo_ti, 02-06-2008 16:44:46  
I know mine is a british 434 the serial tag says 434 the s/n starts with B the front end is a straight axle.



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DonMac

02-07-2008 01:28:51




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 Re: Differences between british and US models in reply to bad_bo_ti, 02-06-2008 16:44:46  
I would love to find out, I have a British Super BM, the engine is the same size as the Super M but there are some other significant differences. The Super BM has drum brakes not disc brakes. The radiator is Irish. The fuel tank holds larger imperial gallons. In Britain disc brakes were first introduced with the B250 not the Super BM. I am using the US workshop manual for the engine (a British made B 264) as I cannot get a British workshop manual yet. We need a Guy Fay in the United Kingdom to update all the differences as well as he written about the US Farmall letter series. In New Zealand we got Ms from US and the UK - my brother in law has one of each. And in Australia they made their own Ms.

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Hugh MacKay

02-06-2008 19:03:11




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 Re: Differences between british and US models in reply to bad_bo_ti, 02-06-2008 16:44:46  
Chris: What model are you talking about? That will make a difference in the correct responce.



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bad_bo_ti

02-06-2008 19:26:20




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 Re: Differences between british and US models in reply to Hugh MacKay, 02-06-2008 19:03:11  
434 diesel. I did do a search that's how I came up with the sheet metal and electrical differences. thanks agian, chris



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Hugh MacKay

02-09-2008 03:03:40




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 Re: Differences between british and US models in reply to bad_bo_ti, 02-06-2008 19:26:20  
Chris: Are you absolutely sure of your information. To my knowledge, 434 was never built or assembled in the USA. The way you can tell, is all US assembled tractors in that size have a swept back front axle. If there is not a swept back front axle, the tractor was completely assembled at Doncaster England.

The 444 was and the differences are far more than sheet metal and electrical. In fact 424 and 444 tractors were shipped from Doncaster to Louisville as engine, transmission and rear end all assembled. From there everything was added with US manufactured parts, front bolster, radiator, swept back front axle, sheet metal, steering, electrical, dash, fenders, hydraulics and wheels.

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Wesley Stephens

02-06-2008 18:09:18




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 Re: Differences between british and US models in reply to bad_bo_ti, 02-06-2008 16:44:46  
I know everybody talks a lot of junk about Lucas electrical parts, but we have had very good luck with it on Ford tractors.



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IH2444

02-06-2008 17:46:11




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 Re: Differences between british and US models in reply to bad_bo_ti, 02-06-2008 16:44:46  
The main difference was the US models have Delco electrical stuff and the British ones have Lucas. yech.



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r4etired

02-06-2008 16:57:26




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 Re: Differences between british and US models in reply to bad_bo_ti, 02-06-2008 16:44:46  
Probably 10 years ago a neighbor bought what I remember as being a 2414 it was british anyway, He brought it to my shop for a tune up prior to winter, I tried every supplier I could think of to get distributor parts for it without any success, I put it back together with the old parts and he traded it off,



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