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Zach Bouchard

02-03-2008 14:28:24




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Anyone have a good 5 gallon bucket electrolysis tank design. I've thought about making one. I have all of the stuff to do it and I want to see how well it works. Post some pics, that would be great.

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Zach Bouchard




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Greg-N-CA

02-04-2008 06:47:32




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 Re: Electrolysis tank in reply to Zach Bouchard, 02-03-2008 14:28:24  
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Zach, here is a photo of my 55 gallon drum with a rebar grid set up around the perimeter. I have linked them together with heavy gage and hose clamps. The clamps make for easy cleaning and/or replacement. You will want to install a drain for changing out your solution. I started with a 5 gallon tank and quickly switched to the bigger tank.

Your M is looking good! Like you, we can't wait for decent enough weather to paint.

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GA Dave

02-03-2008 18:56:13




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 Re: Electrolysis tank in reply to Ed8844, 02-03-2008 14:28:24  
Zach, you may want to strip bigger parts so go at least 30 gallons. David.third party image



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the Unforgiven

02-03-2008 17:23:26




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 Re: Electrolysis tank in reply to Zach Bouchard, 02-03-2008 14:28:24  
Zach, there is not much in the way of designing involved in a 5 gallon tank, all you need is a bucket and a piece of steel that you don't mind ruining. In my opinion the best bucket set-up will have a sheet of steel bent in a circle so it lines the entire bucket, it gives a lot of surface area, allowing you to run higher amperage if desired and requires less cleaning, and it eliminates most of the "line of sight" issue. About any old piece of steel that will fit in the bucket will work fine for a sacraficial anode, it doesn't have to be pretty. Usually it works best with the rusty part as close to the anode as you can get it without touching. I get the best results with an anode with at least twice the surface area of the rusty part, and the more amperage the merrier. A lot of guys want to use rebar and 5 or 6 amps but I don't see how they ever get anything done. You must maintain good connections, I fasten copper wire to the part and the anode and then make the connections above the waterline. Cleaning an assembly, you will need to move the connection around to all the parts you can because when it starts cleaning and breaks the bond between two parts it will only clean the part with the connection and stop cleaning the other part. Keep the rusty part submerged. Use washing soda. I've been doing it for about ten years and am completly sold, I bet once you try it you will be too.

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GeneMO

02-03-2008 19:49:49




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 Re: Electrolysis tank in reply to the Unforgiven, 02-03-2008 17:23:26  
Unforgiven, I have gotten pretty good results with rebar. Used a 55 gallon plastic drum, plumbed in a drain, put it on a plywood platform with coaster wheels. I made 8 electrodes out of 1/2 inch rebar that i heated and formed into a shephards hook shape. Then arranged them over the lip of the tank and welded them together with short lengths of more rebar to form a grid.

You have me thinking how much better this might work with the type of arrangement you mention. Of course all I have are small battery chargers so I cant put out a lot of amps. May have to do some experimenting.

Thanks, Gene

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the Unforgiven

02-04-2008 05:32:47




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 Re: Electrolysis tank in reply to GeneMO, 02-03-2008 19:49:49  
No doubt about it Gene, if you cover the basics you WILL get great results. A lot of you guys are doing it to clean up a single part, I generally do assemblies that are frozen together and rather obsolete, the kind that you can't afford to break something. The higher amperage, big anode works for me, I have pulled 60-80 amps doing a whole engine when eveything is right, and it will do a single part in a relative flash. I try to stock up on big old service station-style battery chargers, working on a big transformer to try this year. Removing oil and grease first is mandatory in my book, it speeds things up a great deal. I love it!

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GA Dave

02-03-2008 17:22:24




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 Re: Electrolysis tank in reply to John M, 02-03-2008 14:28:24  
Here's my 30 gallon trash can DAWG cooker. 15 ounces of Arm & Hammer washing soda to 30 gallons of water. + to outer metal and - to part to be cleaned. David.third party image



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HENRY E NC

02-03-2008 20:44:23




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 Re: Electrolysis tank in reply to GA Dave, 02-03-2008 17:22:24  
Are those white things copper wire attached to pieces of angle iron? so if you connect the pieces together with some wire you just clamp onto the wire at one place? Henry



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