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FARMALL 130?140?

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stewart s. smit

02-02-2008 05:58:56




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Ihave a Farmall with the 130 and McCORMICK signs.
The engine is a C123 which I thought went in a 140.The serial number is 18501 J What have I got?




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Retento

02-05-2008 10:55:28




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 Re: FARMALL 130?140? in reply to Red Mist, 02-02-2008 05:58:56  
If you have a 140 rear, then you may also have the fast fourth gear. The 140 could be orderd with a tall fourth gear, somewhat of an "overdrive". Take one of these fast fourth gear tractors and add the 36" Hi-clearance rear tires and hold on!!



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Hugh MacKay

02-02-2008 07:27:04




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 Re: FARMALL 130?140? in reply to stewart s. smith, 02-02-2008 05:58:56  
Stewart: Got to be a 100 or 140, as Mike said 130 stopped at serial number 10209. They all had the C-123 engine. 100 and 130 sheet metal are the same. A 100 should have Z, A or B casting date codes, 130 would be B, C or D and 140 would start with D and go onward. Block part number for a 100 should be 354898 R2 or R3, 130 would be block part 366204 R1 and 140 would be 367825 R2 block part number.

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stewart s. smith

02-05-2008 09:11:03




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 Re: FARMALL 130?140? in reply to Hugh MacKay, 02-02-2008 07:27:04  
Hugh,
My apologies, I should have paid more attention to what you told me to start with. The block no. is 366201 R1 and the bell housing serial is 18501J which makes it look like I have a 140 back end married up to a 130 front end. The old geezer who sold it to me is tight lipped but that's all right. I still got my $500.00's worth. In fact, since I got it running on all four cylinders, fixed the steering and put new brakes and tires on it I think he'd like to have it back.

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Hugh MacKay

02-05-2008 14:30:53




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 Re: FARMALL 130?140? in reply to stewart s. smith, 02-05-2008 09:11:03  
Stewart: Do you mean 366201 R1, it should be 366204 R1. Why don't you send me an e mail, my e mail is open. I can return you photos of my 130 and 140. My 140 has the post 63 grill, however I also think I have a photo in my file of a pre 63 140. Those will help you decide what you have. I wouldn't surprise me if you have a complete 140 and someone has had to replace the block.

There is a difference between 130 and 140 water pump. The 130 pump is down on left front of engine, having it's own pulley. The larger fan belt goes around fan, crank and water pump. A small belt drives generator off the fan hub. The 140 uses an automotive type water pump driven off the fan shaft. It has one fan belt around fan, generator and crank. If he used a 130 engine complete the tractor will have a 130 water pump. If he matched up a 130 block with a 140 head, I think he can use the 140 type water pump. Don't hold me to that, I'll have to look at my tractors in the morning.

There is very little on these tractors that can't interchange from one model to another. I await your e mail, I know we can sort this out. I've had one of these little tractors since 1958, so there is not much, I haven't figured out with them.

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stewart s. smith

02-05-2008 17:04:39




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 Re: FARMALL 130?140? in reply to Hugh MacKay, 02-05-2008 14:30:53  
Hugh,
For some reason your e-mail link won't take my address. It is mrmacbuck_61@yahoo.com. You have been a great help and I'd appreciate the photos.
I'll check out the water pump set up in the morning.

Tks.



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Red Mist

02-02-2008 06:17:19




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 Re: FARMALL 130?140? in reply to stewart s. smith, 02-02-2008 05:58:56  
I don't know what you've got - maybe a compilation of parts put together to make one tractor....
The C-123 engine was installed in the last of the Super A's, the 100's, the 130's and the 140's. The serial number you quoted implies either a 100 or a 140. Guy Fay's data book lists serial number 10209 as the last 130. Hope this helps.
mike



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