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Gary colorado

01-29-2008 11:41:33




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What should the throttle position be when starting the engine. there seams to be a wide gap between idle and were you start feeding fuel to the diesle engine?




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Hugh MacKay

01-30-2008 07:43:09




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 Re: farmall 340 diesle starting in reply to Gary colorado, 01-29-2008 11:41:33  
Gary: I see your in Colorado, thus you do have winter. One of the best moves you can make is buy a circulating block heater, even if you don't need it for starting. That engine is one of the best applications for a circulating heater. You can plumb it in between block drain and a port in the head. Those head ports are about 1" plugs designed to be removed by a 1/2" drive. One for each cylinder, pick no. 2 or 3.

I had those on my 560 and 656, every start was same as a summer start even down to -30F. I always plugged them in even at 32F, didn't need it for starting, but the reduction in engine wear is well worth it. Go for a 1,500 watt heater, then you only have to plug it in for two hours at 0 F, and more or less from there. One of the very best moves you can make for a glow plug diesel. I always felt 30 min of heater was well worth it at 45F down to freezing. What is a bit of electricity if you double life of your engine.

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dej(jed)

01-30-2008 05:20:12




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 Re: farmall 340 diesle starting in reply to Gary colorado, 01-29-2008 11:41:33  
Gary, Mine has notch indicators and I pull mine down to about the #2 setting. I try not use ether. It usually starts right up and when it does I give it a bit more throttle.



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Haas

01-29-2008 18:51:53




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 Re: farmall 340 diesle starting in reply to Gary colorado, 01-29-2008 11:41:33  
I had a TD 340 crawler for awhile. Same engine I think. Manual said to pull throttle wide open to start it. This engine has glow plugs and if even one is not working, it will make for a hard start (when I first got mine, very hard to start, there was a bad glow plug). Also, when cold, my experience, you had to heat the plugs for 45 secs to 1 minute to get a decent start.



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Chuck46

01-29-2008 14:49:26




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 Re: farmall 340 diesle starting in reply to Gary colorado, 01-29-2008 11:41:33  
Gary, Pull it to wide open while cranking the starter, when it begins to fire close it down so it does not exceed 900rpm. Diesels need full fuel to start when cold but be sure you are handy enough not to over rev it. Good luck, chuck



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Hugh MacKay

01-29-2008 16:05:08




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 Re: farmall 340 diesle starting in reply to Chuck46, 01-29-2008 14:49:26  
Chuck: Never did that, not even once, might help on a worn out pump. I started two diesels most days all winter, truck was usually plugged in however that old 404 Deere was usually miles from any electricity at temps from -20 to -35 F. Very rarely did I have a failure. That blommin old Deere started days that I wished it wouldn't have.



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chuck46

01-29-2008 20:14:28




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 Re: farmall 340 diesle starting in reply to Hugh MacKay, 01-29-2008 16:05:08  
Hugh, Have started that way for over 40 years, it is second nature to me. Hard to remember not to on the german diesels with a pump setting for starting. I first learned it in the army, the 856 manual recommends it. Have a good day, Chuck



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Hugh MacKay

01-29-2008 13:14:46




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 Re: farmall 340 diesle starting in reply to Gary colorado, 01-29-2008 11:41:33  
Gary: I like to start them at around 800 to 900 rpm. Do you have a tach? If so, next time you have it running find that throttle setting for 800 rpm. In case there is slack in the linkage, position it coming up from idle.

You don't want to start them too on rpm. very high parcentage of your engine wear occurs in the first 5 minutes from cold engine.



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