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Al Epp Waldorf

01-21-2008 04:40:25




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I just bought a 72 IH 1800 tandem axle truck from one of my friends. He bought it to get the dump body for a different truck and was going to sell it for scrap. It has the 392 with a 5 speed and 3 speed aux. trans. It also has what looks like a gearbox on the front rear that has a vacuum line running to it. On the dash there is a pull- push knob that is hooked to a valve on 2 vacuum lines in the engine compartment. Is this a 2 speed rear? I"ve been driving it around the farm and the only way to get it to shift without grinding is to let the engine slow down all the way between shifts. I"m shifting the 5 speed only, just leaving the 3 speed in one range. What is the correct way to shift this truck? Does the trans and rears take 90 wt oil? Thanks.

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JD 1956 60

01-22-2008 15:42:47




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 Re: IH 1800 truck in reply to Al Epp Waldorf Md, 01-21-2008 04:40:25  
First truck I drove was a 51 Ford F6 with a non-syncro tranny. Learned to double clutch right from the start. I was 13. Over the years, have driven many 4x4's 5x3's 5x4's and 9, 13, & 15 speed road rangers. Old trucker once told me the clutch was for startin & stopin, and that's it. Took his advice and learned to drive them all without clutching. Takes practice, but my opinion, the way to go.
Good luck

Loren

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BOBM25

01-22-2008 14:13:45




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 Re: IH 1800 truck in reply to Al Epp Waldorf Md, 01-21-2008 04:40:25  
We had both a 5+2 and 5+3 on on farm. I could always shift the "gears" without clutching, but could never change "ranges" without pressing the clutch, waiting just a minute to let the truck catch up with itself, so to speak. Basically take all the pressure out of the drivetrain. It would grind and hit hard without this. Like everybody else said, empty is a snap, loaded is a PITA! Although we have a newer truck now with a 10 speed Dana. I really don't like that at all. Its very, very picky about engine RPM's.

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Al Epp Waldorf Md

01-21-2008 15:53:28




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 Re: IH 1800 truck in reply to Al Epp Waldorf Md, 01-21-2008 04:40:25  
Guess I will just have to practice till I get the hang of it. Shifting my 67 IH 1890 with 5 speed and 2 speed rear is so easy. I wonder why they didn't just use that setup in the 1800? Thanks for the help guys.



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John S-B

01-21-2008 14:31:31




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 Re: IH 1800 truck in reply to Al Epp Waldorf Md, 01-21-2008 04:40:25  
If I had to learn how to drive in that truck I woulda just switched to being Amish.



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Bob M

01-21-2008 09:47:13




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 Re: IH 1800 truck in reply to Al Epp Waldorf Md, 01-21-2008 04:40:25  
Al - Unlike a modern car or light truck, both those transmissions on your truck are unsynchronized. Means you must either double clutch or “float shift” (change gears without using the clutch) in order to change gears without grinding.

These techniques are not difficult to learn. But it does take a bit of practice to get it right.

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The purpose of the aux 3 speed is to divide or “split” each relatively widely spaced gear on the main transmission into 3 more closely spaced gears. When properly shifted this keeps the engine RPM very near the engine’s maximum power point as the truck accelerates. This then gives the best acceleration for a heavily loaded truck. It also eliminates low RPM lugging strain on the engine – though at the expense of increased ‘strain’ on the operator(!)

Like Rusty suggests simply leave the aux 3 speed in OD and shift just the 5 speed. Only with the truck loaded do you really need to use the aux.

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A good video of an experienced driver float shifting twin stick being can be found at the link below.

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TomA

01-22-2008 00:55:37




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 Re: IH 1800 truck in reply to Bob M, 01-21-2008 09:47:13  
If you don't want to mess with the 3 speed ot is best to leave it in direct and shift to OD only when at top speed on the highway.



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RustyFarmall

01-21-2008 10:54:54




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 Re: IH 1800 truck in reply to Bob M, 01-21-2008 09:47:13  
Way cool videos. I'll have to admit I've never driven a two stick, but I've driven several different versions of the 13 spd., and I know all about them swear words. If ya miss one gear, ya might as well let 'er coast to stop and start all over again. And pay attention this time.



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Bob M

01-21-2008 11:42:21




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 Re: IH 1800 truck in reply to RustyFarmall, 01-21-2008 10:54:54  
Rusty – I cut my teeth (and a few transmission gear teeth too!) on an IHC R-series farm dump with a 5+4. It was a valuable experience.

And after learning to run that (also a couple ancient Macks with 5+3 and 5+4 boxes) I found learning to shift the “modern” air-shifted 8LL, 10, 13 and 15 speed Roadrangers etc.is a snap.

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Incidentally an old timer sagely shared this when I was learning the twin stick: If you get lost in the gears you might just as well open the door, step outside and enjoy a smoke while you let everything coast to a stop. Then put ‘er in low-low and "start back up the stairs” all over again.

Aside from the smoking part the old guy wasn't too far off....(!)

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RustyFarmall

01-21-2008 12:54:22




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 Re: IH 1800 truck in reply to Bob M, 01-21-2008 11:42:21  
Yep, that ol' guy would be correct.



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RustyFarmall

01-21-2008 06:20:32




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 Re: IH 1800 truck in reply to Al Epp Waldorf Md, 01-21-2008 04:40:25  
OK, the switch thing had me wondering, but the other guys have identified it, so all I will add is that shifting gears in a truck is nothing at all like shifting gears in a sports car. You need to be slow and deliberate when you move that shift lever or you WILL grind gears. You might also want to learn the technique of "double-clutching". If you can't figure it out, find someone to give you lessons. I could go into great detail with a written description of how it's done, but until you actually see it, you will still be fumbling. As far as the three speed auxialry, just leave it in high until you gain confidence. You won't need it unless you are hauling a heavy load.

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James Williams

01-21-2008 05:24:52




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 Re: IH 1800 truck in reply to Al Epp Waldorf Md, 01-21-2008 04:40:25  
All,Im not a expert here but the switch on the dash is to lock the rears together for off road,And it sounds like you have a 13 speed transmission.

jimmy



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Ry

01-21-2008 05:21:39




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 Re: IH 1800 truck in reply to Al Epp Waldorf Md, 01-21-2008 04:40:25  
The thing on the front drive axle is the inter axle differential lock - use it in mud or icy conditions when you need both axles to be locked together - leave it disengaged on dry ground. The interaxle differential lets axles spin at different speeds for turning and compensates for slight differences in tire size between front and rear drive axles.



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