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Andy Motteberg

01-20-2008 21:20:23




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Hi,
My Dad has a 1974 International Harvester 200 truck. It runs and starts excellent and we have been using it alot to get wood for our furnace. I have not seen many of these types on trucks around. My Dad bought this truck back in May, but it needed some work. It was missing on a couple cylinders, it did not have much power and it needed some work in the steering shaft. I put in new plugs, plug wires, air filter, fuel filter, battery cables, battery, radiator hoses, fan shroud, oil & filter change and a lot more to get this old IH running like it should. Who else has IH trucks? We have been told that they are getting very scarce. I love this old truck and it works real good for hauling stuff, we have been using it to haul wood a lot lately. The photo was taken in the Spring, wish it was still Spring. :( When we got this truck, it had a Char-Lynn torque motor and power steering pump from a tractor in it that somebody added. That was not put in very well and made the steering very sloppy. I removed that and we had the hardest time trying to find a steering shaft, searched the junk yards, eBay, YTMAG and Yesterday's Trucks, could not find any. So I made the one from a 84 Chevy Suburban fit in the International. Now the truck has no power steering (It did not have P/S when new). It works fine like that. I was wondering who else of you has IH trucks around this year?

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Andy Motteberg.

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Ry

01-21-2008 20:35:08




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 Re: International Trucks in reply to Andy Motteberg, 01-20-2008 21:20:23  
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Here are a couple of mine. These old IHs just seem to find there way to me?!



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NYFD

01-21-2008 17:00:30




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 Re: International Trucks in reply to Andy Motteberg, 01-20-2008 21:20:23  
Hi Andy,

If you guys need parts, you just might find some here... Its worth a shot, and better than nothing.

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I (*believe(?)) the 392 V8 is 6.4 Liter and the 345 V8 is 5.7 Liter.

G@@d Luck!

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Andy Motteberg

01-21-2008 20:41:24




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 Re: International Trucks in reply to NYFD, 01-21-2008 17:00:30  
Thanks a lot for the site!



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Brownie450

01-21-2008 12:51:04




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 Re: International Trucks in reply to Andy Motteberg, 01-20-2008 21:20:23  
A small angling extension mirror is a must unless the engine is out of the vehicle. Also, a flat blade scraper is handy to clean dirt/grease off the ID flat.



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billonthefarm

01-21-2008 06:04:12




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 Re: International Trucks in reply to Andy Motteberg, 01-20-2008 21:20:23  
Here are my farm trucks. 1967 1200b and a 1968 1300c. I bought the 1300 from a neighbor a year ago. Alot of the miles on it are from hauling cattle to local sale barns. I saw the 1200 on the photo ads and picked it up this fall. Both have 304's. bill third party image


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Andy Motteberg

01-21-2008 13:05:01




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 Re: International Trucks in reply to billonthefarm, 01-21-2008 06:04:12  
Great looking truck Bill!!

Andy.



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IaGary

01-21-2008 04:22:04




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 Re: International Trucks in reply to Andy Motteberg, 01-20-2008 21:20:23  
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This one has the 345 in it. Dad bought it new in 74.



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Andy Motteberg

01-21-2008 13:03:50




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 Re: International Trucks in reply to IaGary, 01-21-2008 04:22:04  
Hi Gary,
My Dad will by driving the truck home from work soon and I will see what kind of engine it has. Does your IH 200 have automatic or manual transmission? Ours has the manual transmission. The steering is working better since we pulled that torque motor out, but it does still have some free movement in the steering. Something we really need badly for our truck is the front wheel fenders that bolt under the hood. The one that the battery sits in is very rusty and not very strong. In the Spring, we are going to paint this truck IH red! The blue paint job is very old. The original color of this truck is a grayish blue color that is underneath the blue paint.

Andy.

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Paul in MN

01-20-2008 22:51:16




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 Re: International Trucks in reply to Andy Motteberg, 01-20-2008 21:20:23  
Andy,

I have had about a dozen IH travelalls, PUs, and Loadstars. Due to rust none of them is road worthy now, but I still have a lot of the parts. I have both a 74 and 75 4x4 200 series. The limiting factor to the survival of these 2 years is the front brake rotors. They are unique to the IH line and went sky high in price (like about $850 - $1000 each last time I checked). The front axle is spicer and so some transplanting may solve the brake rotor problem. The power steering box is Saginaw (GM) and should be available as a rebuilt from somebody.

The 2 most common engines used in both of those year 200 series trucks were the 345 V-8 and the 392 V-8. The easy way to tell them apart is the 345 only came with a 2 barrel carb, and the 392 only came with a 4 bbl carb. Both of these engines were of the same engine family, and look alike on the outside. They are both very tough engines that should go over 300,000 miles. The same engine family includes the 304 and 266 V-8s. Many school busses and Loadstars were fitted with the 304 and the 345. Internally they were the same in the PU and Travelall. The Loadstar and Cargostar series used a bigger oil pan and bigger radiator, but the engines were identical. Carb jets were different.

If your 200 PU has the automatic tranny, it is the Chrysler 727, a nearly bullet proof tranny. Your transfer case is the NP 205 with gear on gear in a cast iron case (no chain and sprockets to wear out). It is probably the toughest transfer case available for the 1 ton and smaller truck. Your rear axle will be a Spicer 60 or 60 HD. Navistar is of no help in getting parts, but the aftermarket people have a lot of this stuff available. NAPA is one source I use.

Dang good trucks, but the body needed to last longer. The engine and drive train would outlast the body in every one I had. And yes, they were very good winter starters. Just do not flood that engine, it is a real bear to unflood.

Where in MN are you? Me...just a bit west of the Mpls metro area near Hamel.

Stay warm...

Paul in MN

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Andy Motteberg

01-24-2008 18:43:46




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 Re: International Trucks in reply to Paul in MN, 01-20-2008 22:51:16  
Thanks for the info Paul.



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Damp;Dservice

01-20-2008 21:32:14




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 Re: International Trucks in reply to James Newton, 01-20-2008 21:20:23  
Wow andy, I just picked up a 73 3/4 ton 2wd ih pickup at a sale yesterday, They made me an offer I could not understand and i came home with it, dont even have a pic of it yet, it has the big 392 4 bbl V8, power steering, power brakes and a very nice body on it, i will post some pics, I bought it to part it out because It would probablly get about 2 mpg! but there are some farm trucks around here that use that engine. cool to see another one!

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Andy Motteberg

01-20-2008 22:00:18




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 Re: International Trucks in reply to Damp;Dservice, 01-20-2008 21:32:14  
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How do you know what size motor is in it? I don't know what size engine is in this one. The body is pretty good on this one, it does have some rust through on it. My Dad is going to paint it red in the Spring. We don't need anymore blue. Our Van is blue and our 82 Dodge Power Ram is blue. Too much blue! Me and my Dad go into town a lot with this old truck and a lot of people come and look at it. I've heard people say things like " You sure don't see many of those anymore ". It has been about 30 below zero here in MN. This truck starts right up in the cold and it has a VERY good heater in it. I really like this truck and it seems to be very dependable so far. Only problem is there is there is no gas gauge because this truck has a larger box put on and a larger fuel tank under it, so the original fuel gauge is always Empty. So we just keep puttng gas in once in a while until we get a gauge that works with the fuel tank. Here is a photo of the homemade box. It is a very nice large box, it is nice because it is wider than the truck's cab as you can see in the photo. It was made very nicely, it is not a ugly homemade one, it is a good homemade one and is strong. The toolobox is no longer in the back, that was moved into our other truck.

Andy.

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NYFD

01-20-2008 23:04:25




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 Re: International Trucks in reply to Andy Motteberg, 01-20-2008 22:00:18  
Andy: To identify 70"s IH V8 engine, check on the right side of the engine (Passenger Side) towards the front, on the side of the block there is flat spot about the size of a domino, just below the cylinder head and exhaust manifold. The engine size is stamped in this location.

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Andy Motteberg

01-21-2008 14:47:37




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 Re: International Trucks in reply to NYFD, 01-20-2008 23:04:25  
Thanks for the info!



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