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Re: Creeper Gear Offset Farmalls

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hardscrabble

01-12-2008 17:22:43




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Looks almost like a 140 Hi-Clear with the wrong wheels. Either that, or a 140 with a Hi-Clear front axle.




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Jim Becker

01-14-2008 18:28:46




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 Re: Creeper Gear Offset Farmalls in reply to hardscrabble, 01-12-2008 17:22:43  
Hugh, all I know about the 140 in the pictures is what the pictures show. I don't recall ever seeing a gearbox like that. If it hadn't been 500 miles away, I would have probably gone to take a look at it.

Do you recall my once describing a 2-speed that was used in the 140s with a mounted grape picker? I never did get a good look at one of them either but wonder if this is the same gearbox. I think most of the grape picker stuff was driven by hydraulics. They may not have needed the PTO.

Likewise with this tractor. If the experimantal farm needed a slow tractor for some row crop stuff, they may have not normally needed the PTO.

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Hugh MacKay

01-15-2008 03:12:57




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 Re: Creeper Gear Offset Farmalls in reply to Jim Becker, 01-14-2008 18:28:46  
Jim: It's probably quite true that most applications for a creeper gear in these tractors, the pto was a non issue. Most folks in my area used the Hydra Creeper drive and most of that was for transplanting.

Size of operations soon made the need for creepers in a offset Farmall obselete. Many of those same farms still have their SA, 100, 130 or 140 and it's mainly cultivating duty only. Most soon went for larger tractors on multi row trans planters and harvesters.

My interest in the past 15 years has been a reduction gear that will give me 540 rpm on pto. I grow a few baking potatoes in wide rows (48"). Increasing the hill size gives me a lot higher percentage of those long oval potatoes. Sized those do command a premiun price. This is not big volume, thus another tractor is not and option. I'd like to use a transplanter unit for dropping my seed but most of all I need a slower gear for my 1 row PTO digger.

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Steven f/AZ

01-13-2008 09:52:23




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 Re: Creeper Gear Offset Farmalls in reply to hardscrabble, 01-12-2008 17:22:43  
After a couple good wars, I gave up on having the Mrs. help out in the field. I did manage to teach her how to run the lawn mower, but was expecting last summer so did not want to bounce around... and I suppose this coming summer she will just want to spend time with our little girl.

Anyway, maybe someday I can get my daughter to work with me in the field. :wink:



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Robbie6

01-13-2008 07:37:42




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 Re: Creeper Gear Offset Farmalls in reply to hardscrabble, 01-12-2008 17:22:43  
Morning Hugh

Maybe you should build 2 - I want one for my Super A when I am going to use it to pull my (yet to be built!) one row garlic planter when I finally get settled in Nova Scotia.

I find my Super A is geared a bit high and I don't think the wife could drop the garlic cloves that fast. Her solution is that she will drive the tractor and I will ride the planter!

Seriously, I think I am going to try to find something that will slow down the SA while giving me enough rpm to pull up some of the slopes on the north mountain in "The Valley".

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Robert Lorencz

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Hugh MacKay

01-13-2008 08:49:44




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 Re: Creeper Gear Offset Farmalls in reply to Robbie6, 01-13-2008 07:37:42  
Robert: Ah-ha using a new handle, I wondered what ever became of you. E mail me and I'll give you the secret on a good creeper. You could build a treadmill, using belt pulley for drive end, remove the seat, and let your wife steer from the moving treadmill. She may encounter some difficulty on the North Mountain. Not sure which would be worse climbing or holding back. I suppose you could equip her with turbo and engine brakes. There you go, another place I would not dare stop to visit in eastern Ontario.

Not so seriously, you may encounter the same problems as Angus, a guy in my hometown. His boys and a few friends getting out of the military after WW#2 built Angus a 6 cylinder, 4x4, tractor using military hardware. the thing weighed about 4 ton. Angus hitched the new tractor to his wagon and loose hay loader. Angus's wife Edith had always driven the horses loading hay, thus it was gettyup and whoa. Angus only bothered to tell Edith about the clutch, throttle and gear shift. At the crest of a hill, Angus yelled whoa, Edith shoved in clutch and away they went, reaching speeds of close to 20 mph, hay loader burried near burried Angus until it exploded. Angus was quite sore with the boys about his wrecked hayloader.

Just sometimes these ventures just don't work with husband and wife.

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