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Rear Ballace for front loader

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Jeef

01-06-2008 20:01:24




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I have a 574 that has a rather robust front end loader that will lift the rear of the tractor off the ground easy. I need to ballance it out. My old tractor used a box blade to ballance the weight out but I know that will not be near enough for this setup. I figure the loader should be capable of lifting 1500 lbs minimum, does that mean I need 1500 lb of weight on the rear?

Also I noticed the loader lifts up much easier on the right rear than left. Wondering if there is less fluid in one tire than the other.

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Bob Kerr

01-07-2008 10:33:08




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 Re: Rear Ballace for front loader in reply to Jeef, 01-06-2008 20:01:24  
I have seen the bareel full of cement work. Also have seen then full of water, scrap iron, sand, dirt anything that is heavy. A couple of them had regular 3 point style drawbars stuck in the barrel and a bracket for the top link so ity doesn"t sway for the hook up. I tend to like the sand idea so the weight can be adjusted and I always have use for sand once in a while. Only thing is you might have to "weed " the barrel in summer and keep it in the shed or covered up so the barrel doesn"t rust out.

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rich4

01-07-2008 10:18:14




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 Re: Rear Ballace for front loader in reply to Jeef, 01-06-2008 20:01:24  
Might want to check fluid level in rear tires, also lift anything heavy on level ground only. Those rear tires should be able to hold a lot of fluid, that keeps the weight low, also a counter weight of several hundred pounds on the rear would help. I believe counter weights help the front end loading more than tire weight. Another variable is how far the loader sticks out in front of the tractor. The farther it is out front the more counter weight you may need. The guy with the barrel of concrete has an idea, but a full barrel may be way too much to move around, maybe a half barrel.Could use a whole barrel, fill halfway and fill with rocks if you need more weight.

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Jeef

01-07-2008 08:41:37




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 Re: Rear Ballace for front loader in reply to Jeef, 01-06-2008 20:01:24  
So would a barrel of cement be "about right" for my 574? I want to keep the weight low to the ground and managable if it needs to come off.
I was pretty disapointed when I couldn't lift the front of a car. At least the hydraulics still have it, I just need to weight the rear down.
Jeff



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Rob in Ore

01-07-2008 06:44:27




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 Re: Rear Ballace for front loader in reply to Jeef, 01-06-2008 20:01:24  
When I picked up a counter weight for my 240u from a local auction I thought it would be just right. It was a full 55gal. drum filled with cement and set onto a platform that mounted to the 3 pt. As you can imagine I soon learned that it was a bit too much. When I mounted it with out the loader I was able to literally lift the front tires off the ground by myself. I regret not getting someone to take a picture of me doing that but I was in a hurry to get that monster off of my little tractor. If you know anyone that needs a barrel of cement...
I now have a half barrel filled with rocks and cement and it is just fine.

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Hugh MacKay

01-07-2008 08:34:24




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 Re: Rear Ballace for front loader in reply to Rob in Ore, 01-07-2008 06:44:27  
Rob: Advertize it, the barrel of cement works great on big tractors. I used it on my Farmall 560, just about right.



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Allan In NE

01-07-2008 05:22:20




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 Re: Rear Ballace for front loader in reply to Jeef, 01-06-2008 20:01:24  
This is my temporary "fix". Put the front end weight setup 'round back on the 3-point.

A bit of "farmer engineering" I know, but will sufice until I can get those tires loaded.

Allan

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gene bender

01-07-2008 04:59:07




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 Re: Rear Ballace for front loader in reply to Jeef, 01-06-2008 20:01:24  
Better not be picking up 1500lbs over three ft with that size tractor unless you have great life insurance.



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RockyMO

01-07-2008 04:04:02




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 Re: Rear Ballace for front loader in reply to Jeef, 01-06-2008 20:01:24  
I have a 3 pt carry all that has (2) 55 gallon plastic barrells filled with water. the weight of the carrier and water is about 1000 pounds. This seems to be pretty effective at holding the rear wheels to the ground. The rear tires are also calcium filled and the wheels have weights installed. The only draw back is that the water will freeze in the winter so you need to add some sort of antifreeze or calcium like in the tires. The farther out the back of the rear of the tractor the weight hangs the less you will need (think of a fulcrum or teeter taughter). So a matching weight of 1500 pounds on the rear is not always necassary depending on the distance from the tractor.

Rocky in MO

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Hugh MacKay

01-07-2008 02:08:32




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 Re: Rear Ballace for front loader in reply to Jeef, 01-06-2008 20:01:24  
Jeef: The back blade with weights is quite effective. They can also make the blade cut better when using it. The down side is length if your working in tight quarters.

For that I used a 55 gallon barrel filled with concrete and fitted with steel cast right into the concrete for picking it up with 3 point hitch.

Bottom line is you still need the tires loaded plus the counter weight, for any serious loader work.

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old

01-06-2008 20:39:44




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 Re: Rear Ballace for front loader in reply to Jeef, 01-06-2008 20:01:24  
What I do is this. I put a back blade on and then load the blade down with suit case weights. Doing that puts the weigh way out back and it does make a big difference. My tires are also full of fluid. My tractor with the loader can pick up 2500lbs easy and even with 6-85lbs weights on the blade and the tires full of fluid I can have problems at times

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