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Hoss in Maine

12-29-2007 08:59:27

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Can a cont eng. be directly replaced by anithing else?Im thinking maybe an h eng? I can get a 350 for 1000 bucks has maybe bad crank. Thanks Hoss

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Paul in MN

12-29-2007 21:27:00

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Re: 350/continental in reply to Hoss in Maine, 12-29-2007 08:59:27

Hoss,

Don't know if this is true or not, but I was told that the Continental diesel turns in the opposite direction from the gas engines. If this is true, they must have had some way to reverse the motion of the tractor. Possibly this was done by switching the ring and pinion gears around in the rear end. IIRC the big ring gear is towards the left side of the pinion in the gas tractor. The rear end housing should have enough open space to swap that to the right side, and thus the tractor motion is reversed.

Maybe I was told a big bad story?? Anyway, I throw this out for you to check out if you really are considering a swap to the gas engine.

I helped my brother with major engine work on his 202 Massey with the Continental Z 129 gas engine. I felt that both the Ford 8N 120 and the Farmall H 152 were much better designed and built engines. I have no idea whether the Continental diesel was a "industrial" quality diesel or a modified gas engine with castings that were too light for long life. Possibly IH found out the answer as they used the Continental engine for only one or 2 years.

Best of Luck.

Paul in MN

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georgeky

12-29-2007 21:39:07

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Re: 350/continental in reply to Paul in MN, 12-29-2007 21:27:00

Thats a load of hog wash. Turns the same way as gas. Is also a very good dependable diesel designed engine. Gets the best fuel economy of any tractor of that size I ever owned. Plenty of power too. The Continental was used in 56, 57 and 58, then the newer generation of diesel engines came out in the 460/560 that replaced the 50 series tractors. I have the rear end out of a gas 350 in mine now. No difference.

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Roger46

12-29-2007 19:14:58

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Re: 350/continental in reply to Hoss in Maine, 12-29-2007 08:59:27

Hoss, I am working on a 350 diesel right now. I have the engine all rebuilt now. It had a broken crankshaft and cracked head. I was eventually able to get all the parts I needed including engine rebuild kit, reground crank, head, and other rebuild parts. It wasn't really any more expensive than any other diesel. Let us know if you need information or parts sources. Roger

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D Slater

12-30-2007 09:28:57

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Re: 350/continental in reply to Roger46, 12-29-2007 19:14:58

Roger, never removed a 350 D head that wasn't cracked or repaired in the past. Some of those tractors the crankshafts broke when near new. 3 main bearings in a diesel is not the best. That said some of them that stayed together have lasted a long time. If the energy cells get restricted it puts more stress on the lower end. Most have drive gears on the front to hydraulic pump worn pretty bad by now.

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georgeky

12-29-2007 20:06:44

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Re: 350/continental in reply to Roger46, 12-29-2007 19:14:58

Roger, that was my thinking too. Any diesel can and might cost 4 or 5000 to rebuild. Now that you have it though it should last you a long time now. They are great old tractors. Still haven't gotten mine back together yet, but will one day.

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Hoss in Maine

12-29-2007 17:11:50

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Re: 350/continental in reply to Hoss in Maine, 12-29-2007 08:59:27

Thanx george,i,ll keep you posted. Later Hoss

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Hoss in Maine

12-29-2007 13:04:11

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Re: 350/continental in reply to Hoss in Maine, 12-29-2007 08:59:27

Thanks guys.The fella whats got it thinks a bearing piggybacked.Ive rebuilt a few diesels including my 830 case I found in a field all in pleces.I was wondering if it would be worth buying and fixing.Besides ive got everything but a farmall. Fixin to get greasy in Maine,Hoss

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georgeky

12-29-2007 15:42:56

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Re: 350/continental in reply to Hoss in Maine, 12-29-2007 13:04:11

Hoss, if you decide to fix the diesel, email me and I can direct you towards some parts for it.

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georgeky

12-29-2007 11:59:20

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Re: 350/continental in reply to Hoss in Maine, 12-29-2007 08:59:27

You can switch to the gas engine, But the hydraulic lines will have to be switched as well. The pumps are on opposite side of engine, so you will need lines from the gas tractor as well. May be another difference or two. I will have to think about it a while to see if anything else comes to mind. Oh, you will also need gas sheet metal. Mufflers on opposite side. Can't think of anything else right now.

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CNKS

12-29-2007 09:18:00

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Re: 350/continental in reply to Hoss in Maine, 12-29-2007 08:59:27

The gas C175, or earlier versions should bolt right in, but since I have never seen the Continental, there may be some minor differences. I think the exhaust goes through the opposite side of the hood? Although parts are hard to find and expensive, your 350 will be rare and more valuable if you can afford to fix the Continental.

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